Remington Rand second variation slide marking Dulite

[oldcanuck]

Mike,

Normally you and I agree.... but not on this particular barrel issue. I would agree if this TII had a plain 'SP' on the LH lug, without a Heat Lot number, and a stepped belly transition..... but that's not the case here. A much earlier 'S' and 'P' on both lugs and probably a smooth belly transition, would indicate a mid WWI production barrel. Do you actually think another 10000 Springfields manufactured AND an additional 25-30 years of sitting around, and then it ends up in a Type II, after a Type I. As you guys say down south.....'That dog just won't hunt'.

[Arisaka99]

Here is the barrel. Thanks for continuing observations. Is there any other photo that will help?

[oldcanuck]

Brad,

Prior to your barrel pictures, you mentioned the 'S' was on the LH lug, and the 'P' was on the RH lug...... obviously this is not the case. The barrel pictured is a WWII era Springfield that could possibly be correct. This example is normally known as a Field Replacement from between the wars, but some think they were also shipped to Mfrs. early on to initiate WWII production. The later version, with the Heat Lot number were known to be used in very early inital production by RRand, US&S and Ithaca.

[Arisaka99]

Bob; Thanks. I was trying to explain that the S was on the left side and the R on the right side of the link on left hand side. Always better to post photos; didn't have ability when I first described. Thanks for the knowledge and experience. When you describe stepped belly transition, you are talking about the slight step around the lug base on the wartime lot numbered Springfield barrels yes? Sorry for the innane questions. New area for me.

[John Holbrook]

Here is an example of the "step", the barrel on the left is a 1911 Colt barrel and the others are 1911A1. Note the distintive step on the 1911A1 caused by different milling. Another note, the 1911 barrels are about 1/64" shorter that M1911A1.. There are also some other differences....

[Arisaka99]

Thanks John!