Irwin Pedersen Questions

[phillydude]

1. Ordnance document
2. no
3. Saginaw made carbines with them
4. me/several

You should read the latest Carbine Club Newsletter.

i sent in my money in november, they never cashed my check or sent me the newest newsletter

[Harlan (Deceased)]

phillydude,

Unfortunately I had the same sort of experience when I tried to join a few years ago. I know they're a small group of volunteers so problems and mistakes happen. I've been thinking of trying to join again because of all the good things I hear, but your experience doesn't sound very positive.

[phillydude]

Roger got back to me today,I just have to resubmit another check, no big deal

[dbarn]

phillydude,

Unfortunately I had the same sort of experience when I tried to join a few years ago. I know they're a small group of volunteers so problems and mistakes happen. I've been thinking of trying to join again because of all the good things I hear, but your experience doesn't sound very positive.

Not sure what the cause is, but stuff does happen both human errors and postal errors. All I can say is there is a wealth of carbine information coming out these days and the Jan. newsletter is nothing short of just awesome. This kind of information is not available anywhere else. The CC club does require participation in reporting data, and is one of the many reasons their information can't be beat.

[stickhauler]

I Thought Commercial Controls Would Be The Rarest???

I'm not sure when the production ended, but Commercial Controls was NPM up into around 1944.

[Bruce McAskill]

April 26,1944 National Postal Meter become Commercial Controls. BUT the CCC marked carbines ( IF there is such a thing) were not made during the contract time frame and would have been made in May 1944.

[Hooks]

Fulton Armory makes reference to the CCC marked carbine.

http://www.fulton-armory.com/M1Carbine.htm

[Mikey51]

Who has an I. P. ? Me !. I agree with Brian Q, refer to, or become a member of the Carbine Club for the latest info. Cheers, Mikey 51.

[phillydude]

I've looked in my copy of War Baby! for the reference to the 50,000 IP receivers I thought I saw mentioned there but couldn't find it. I own about every major M1Carbine reference book printed, just my luck I may have seen it in Harrison's I'll have to look through War Baby Comes Home next to find that 32,000 figure you mentioned, Dave but in any case I believe whatever number of IP receiver carbines were accepted by the US government are included in the total of 223,620 that S'G' was credited with having produced.
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Charlie



only one i found that said there were 50k receivers made was in j.C. Harrison's book......i know there are some inaccurate parts to this book, why does everyone rip it to no end? i think its pretty good

[Maniac]

I've looked in my copy of War Baby! for the reference to the 50,000 IP receivers I thought I saw mentioned there but couldn't find it. I own about every major M1Carbine reference book printed, just my luck I may have seen it in Harrison's I'll have to look through War Baby Comes Home next to find that 32,000 figure you mentioned, Dave but in any case I believe whatever number of IP receiver carbines were accepted by the US government are included in the total of 223,620 that S'G' was credited with having produced.
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Charlie


only one i found that said there were 50k receivers made was in j.C. Harrison's book......i know there are some inaccurate parts to this book, why does everyone rip it to no end? i think its pretty good

Thanks, phillydude. There is some obviously contradictory info in J.C. Harrison's M1 Carbine book, as well as the M1 Garand version but one cannot overlook that Harrison saw many of both and was putting forth his best effort with what was known at the time. One shouldn't reject either book out of hand just because a few inaccuracies because some faults can be found in other's reference books. I own both Harrison books and as well as books by Riesch, Canfield, Duff, Ruth, and others that I refer to collectively, although Larry Ruth's work is considered by many to be the most definitive. As DaveHH pointed out earlier, Ruth did mention some 32,000 IP receivers in War Baby Comes Home. I guess the point I was trying to make is that although IP receiver carbines are very scarce there were tens of thousands assembled, qualified and shipped to the US Gov't by S'G' and these are part of the total of 123,620 M1 Carbines that are attributed to production of the Grand Rapids manufacturing facility.