+ Reply to Thread
Page 2 of 2 FirstFirst 1 2
Results 11 to 19 of 19

Thread: Parker-Hale backsight?

Click here to increase the font size Click here to reduce the font size
  1. #11
    Advisory Panel Surpmil's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Last On
    @
    Location
    West side
    Posts
    4,700
    Local Date
    04-27-2024
    Local Time
    03:36 AM
    The later Parker Hale 5C's with the squared knobs are rather shoddy compared to the AJ Parker Twin Zeroes, and particulary the Centrals; sloppy fitting, backlash etc. PH even used an aluminum body on the late ones, which is particularly cheap 'n nasty.

    Which of course is why serious shooters used Centrals and no one bothered with the PH's anymore. Even the TZ has backlash in the windage mechanism. "Good enough" as long as there's no competition in the marketplace...

    A bit of 600 grit wet 'n dry paper rubbed in a straight line will clean up the scales nicely.

  2. # ADS
    Friends and Sponsors
    Join Date
    October 2006
    Location
    Milsurps.Com
    Posts
    All Threads
    A Collector's View - The SMLE Short Magazine Lee Enfield 1903-1989. It is 300 8.5x11 inch pages with 1,000+ photo’s, most in color, and each book is serial-numbered.  Covering the SMLE from 1903 to the end of production in India in 1989 it looks at how each model differs and manufacturer differences from a collecting point of view along with the major accessories that could be attached to the rifle. For the record this is not a moneymaker, I hope just to break even, eventually, at $80/book plus shipping.  In the USA shipping is $5.00 for media mail.  I will accept PayPal, Zelle, MO and good old checks (and cash if you want to stop by for a tour!).  CLICK BANNER to send me a PM for International pricing and shipping. Manufacturer of various vintage rifle scopes for the 1903 such as our M73G4 (reproduction of the Weaver 330C) and Malcolm 8X Gen II (Unertl reproduction). Several of our scopes are used in the CMP Vintage Sniper competition on top of 1903 rifles. Brian Dick ... BDL Ltd. - Specializing in British and Commonwealth weapons Specializing in premium ammunition and reloading components. Your source for the finest in High Power Competition Gear. Here at T-bones Shipwrighting we specialise in vintage service rifle: re-barrelling, bedding, repairs, modifications and accurizing. We also provide importation services for firearms, parts and weapons, for both private or commercial businesses.
     

  3. #12
    FREE MEMBER
    NO Posting or PM's Allowed
    madcratebuilder's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Last On
    05-17-2016 @ 10:32 AM
    Location
    Northern Orygun
    Age
    74
    Posts
    330
    Local Date
    04-27-2024
    Local Time
    03:36 AM
    Thread Starter
    Quote Originally Posted by Surpmil View Post
    The later Parker Hale 5C's with the squared knobs are rather shoddy compared to the AJ Parker Twin Zeroes, and particulary the Centrals; sloppy fitting, backlash etc. PH even used an aluminum body on the late ones, which is particularly cheap 'n nasty.

    Which of course is why serious shooters used Centrals and no one bothered with the PH's anymore. Even the TZ has backlash in the windage mechanism. "Good enough" as long as there's no competition in the marketplace...

    A bit of 600 grit wet 'n dry paper rubbed in a straight line will clean up the scales nicely.
    I have heard a few people complain about the sloppy fitting, backlash etc on the PH. I sure don't see it the example I have. Tight as a drum, even with the locking screw loose there is no movement.

  4. Avoid Ads - Become a Contributing Member - Click HERE
  5. #13
    Legacy Member Alan de Enfield's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Last On
    Today @ 03:07 AM
    Location
    Y Felinheli, Gogledd Cymru
    Posts
    2,544
    Real Name
    Alan De Enfield
    Local Date
    04-27-2024
    Local Time
    11:36 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by madcratebuilder View Post
    I have heard a few people complain about the sloppy fitting, backlash etc on the PH. I sure don't see it the example I have. Tight as a drum, even with the locking screw loose there is no movement.
    Over the years I've had a few 5Cs, generally they are as tight as a duck a**, the odd ones that have been loose have been very worn and basically useless. They can be re-furbished but its as expensive as buying another one.
    Mine are not the best, but they are not too bad. I can think of lots of Enfields I'd rather have but instead of constantly striving for more, sometimes it's good to be satisfied with what one has...

  6. #14
    Advisory Panel
    Peter Laidler's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Last On
    Today @ 06:34 AM
    Location
    Abingdon, Oxfordshire. The home of MG Cars
    Posts
    16,510
    Real Name
    Peter Laidler
    Local Date
    04-27-2024
    Local Time
    11:36 AM
    Ah, Alan de. Is that 'tight as a ducks bottom' another of those well used phrases or sayings used by Englanders as well as REME Armourers? Is that 'tight' as in 'water tight'. No wonder these wild untamed colonials and savage heathens from the colonies don't understand us Englanders.

    It's about time we sent another gunboat over there and sorted them out, once and for all

  7. #15
    Legacy Member Alan de Enfield's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Last On
    Today @ 03:07 AM
    Location
    Y Felinheli, Gogledd Cymru
    Posts
    2,544
    Real Name
    Alan De Enfield
    Local Date
    04-27-2024
    Local Time
    11:36 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Laidlericon View Post
    Ah, Alan de. Is that 'tight as a ducks bottom' another of those well used phrases or sayings used by Englanders as well as REME Armourers? Is that 'tight' as in 'water tight'. No wonder these wild untamed colonials and savage heathens from the colonies don't understand us Englanders.

    It's about time we sent another gunboat over there and sorted them out, once and for all
    I suppose I could have said "as tight as a Yorkshireman" (HOW MUCH ????) but there may be Yorkshiremen reading this so I didn't.
    Mine are not the best, but they are not too bad. I can think of lots of Enfields I'd rather have but instead of constantly striving for more, sometimes it's good to be satisfied with what one has...

  8. #16
    FREE MEMBER
    NO Posting or PM's Allowed
    lucky dog's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Last On
    09-03-2018 @ 07:10 PM
    Location
    Central Illinois
    Age
    63
    Posts
    70
    Local Date
    04-27-2024
    Local Time
    04:36 AM
    Madcratebuilder you may have already found this but this page has some info on the various PH sights: Service and TArget Rifle Sights ~ Parker-Hale and B.S.A.

  9. #17
    Advisory Panel Surpmil's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Last On
    @
    Location
    West side
    Posts
    4,700
    Local Date
    04-27-2024
    Local Time
    03:36 AM
    It looks like someone has put in a screw or probably a spring loaded plunger/ball to tighten up the elevation slide. Or perhaps that was a late attempt by PH to improve things I don't know. Never seen it before myself.

    If the knobs are 'home-made', then whoever was doing it would be well able to do that kind of modification as well.

    Still doesn't solve the lack of an anti-backlash spring on the windage screw.

    I've got one of the alloy bodied ones here and it is a POS compared to a Central or Twin Zero, or an early PH5 for SMLE for that matter.

    Only the quality of fitting on the Twin Zero makes up for the fact that it has a rectangular elevation slide and slot: emphatically NOT self-aligning in principle. Probably done to get around PH patents...guess I'd better get Edna's book and 'get edumacated.'
    Last edited by Surpmil; 01-31-2010 at 02:24 PM.

  10. #18
    FREE MEMBER
    NO Posting or PM's Allowed
    madcratebuilder's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Last On
    05-17-2016 @ 10:32 AM
    Location
    Northern Orygun
    Age
    74
    Posts
    330
    Local Date
    04-27-2024
    Local Time
    03:36 AM
    Thread Starter
    It's about time we sent another gunboat over there and sorted them out, once and for all
    Come on over, we could use a change of government, the folks in their now are...

  11. #19
    Legacy Member Mk VII's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Last On
    04-25-2024 @ 05:37 PM
    Location
    England
    Age
    62
    Posts
    1,409
    Real Name
    James West
    Local Date
    04-27-2024
    Local Time
    11:36 AM
    Some TZs have a T-slot; some have a dovetail. Important to know if you're looking for a replacement arm.

+ Reply to Thread
Page 2 of 2 FirstFirst 1 2

Similar Threads

  1. A.G. and A.J. Parker and Parker-Hale Service Rifle Target Sights
    By Badger in forum The Lee Enfield Knowledge Library Collectors Forum
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 12-12-2010, 08:06 AM
  2. Parker Hale sight
    By MK111 in forum Milsurps General Discussion Forum
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 04-09-2009, 10:54 AM
  3. Need parker hale rings
    By milsurpcollector in forum The Lee Enfield Knowledge Library Collectors Forum
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 03-20-2009, 04:18 PM
  4. Parker Hale, Franken gun
    By sdh1911 in forum The Watering Hole OT (Off Topic) Forum
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 02-19-2007, 12:39 PM

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts