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    No4 MKI Longbranch markings ??

    I have not personally seen an early No4 MKI Longbranch but have been offered oe but the markings look different, Are the markings right? Note: The picture is a little stretch due to resizing.

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    ....

    Looks fine, if not a little soft. Wonder if it had been refinished?.
    There seems to have been four main Long Branch fonts.
    The 1941 was different than the 1942 as you can see, and the 1943 was even more different. The 1944 is more like the 1943 than any other.
    I'll try to post some others.
    The 1941 looks like a pantograph, while the 1942, 44 and 45 are stamps, the 1943 engraving. Something I've been attempting to work on as time allows. Also an interesting line on the reveiver heel stamps and sizes. They were all over the map on those!
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    Bead blasting and phosphating does tend to round the edges of the earlier pantograph engraved markings - exactly as shown in Enfield Traders photo. Once theyve been through the system a few times, I've seen them beadblasted almost clean

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    Indeed

    I have a 1943 Long Branch that is virtually un identifiable save the serial number. If you hold it up to the light JUST right, you can make out the receiver markings.... which is one reason I think some, (not all) of the 1943 receiver markings were different than the others; a stamp wouldn't fade to nearly nothing as a engraving does. With '43 being the highest year of production for LB, stands to reason they might want to speed up the line somehow.

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    Bead blasting and phosphating does tend to round the edges of the earlier pantograph engraved markings - exactly as shown in Enfield Traders photo. Once theyve been through the system a few times, I've seen them beadblasted almost clean

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    Here's another interesting 1942 stamp.

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    PETER, what's the "MP" stamp?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grizz1946 View Post
    PETER, what's the "MP" stamp?
    MP=Mounted Police
    Found on the slightly more than 1000 No4's used by the RCMP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grizz1946 View Post
    PETER, what's the "MP" stamp?

    The "MP" (Mounted Police) marking is interesting....

    There's examples complete with photo pictorials of both 1941 and 1942 Long Branch rifles in the Knowledge Librariesicon.

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    1942/43/44 RCMP No.4 Mk1* Long Branch Rifles (click here) .....

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    Mounted Police................ mounted on what? Horses?

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