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    So were all those enfield snipers (thanks for the pics) on the Lovat stand pictured above for sale or just eye candy?
    Also Alan - what was the 4t that you spotted like? How much etc?

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    [QUOTE=Simon, I only joined this forum after visiting the show, but what a pity the rifles on the Lovat Society stand were at least 12 feet back from the front of the stand. I wanted to drool properly but at that distance it was kinda hard!QUOTE]

    It would have been nice to have the collection at little more accesible but unfortunately these events also attract a considerable number of those who are best described as being "dealt an uneven hand from the gene pool"

    We had over fifty sniping weapons on display from WWI to current issue and you would not believe how many times I was asked if they where BB guns or how many folk would stare at the stand for 10 mins before suddenly thrusting out a pointing finger at the Accuracy International and declaring loudly "look at that there's one of those sniper guns"

    The weapons on display belonged to three of the members of the Society and whilst chatting over a few beers on the Saturday evening we came to the conclusion that at current market rate the display could be valued roughly in the region of 200 to 250,000

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    P.S. We would have happily let you behind the table for a closer look, all you had to do was ask.

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    It's an incredible collection simon! Wish I could have seen it close-ish up but that show's a bit far for me. How do you value a smle genuine ww1 sniper - I've never seen one for sale. What amount did you arrive at?

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    We based our estimates for the WWI kit to be of similar value to a No4(T).

    Like everything else they're only worth what someone is prepared to pay for them.

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    It's an incredible collection simon! Wish I could have seen it close-ish up but that show's a bit far for me. How do you value a smle genuine ww1 sniper - I've never seen one for sale. What amount did you arrive at?

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    The no4T should not be used as a basis for ww1 snipers.There are less in the market and a damn site older with less technolgy involved. Simon would you swap a WW1 sniper any sight for a No1 mk3HT, No3Mk1*T or a No4T.

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    Personally no, but like I said things are only worth what somone is prepared to pay for them and for some reason, as rare as they are, WWI snipers only return the same as a good 4(T).

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    The no4T should not be used as a basis for ww1 snipers.There are less in the market and a damn site older with less technolgy involved. Simon would you swap a WW1 sniper any sight for a No1 mk3HT, No3Mk1*T or a No4T.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon View Post
    P.S. We would have happily let you behind the table for a closer look, all you had to do was ask.
    Eeeh lad! Is the show on again on thursday by any chance?

    Didn't realise 'til I got home what the bright white background had done to my photos - completely dominated the exposure. Just think what I could have done from a lot closer.

    Superb display nonetheless Simon.

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    The situation with No 4 (T)s (and I think the same may be true of WW1 snipers) is that they are like the paintings of Matisse. It is said that in his lifetime he did 800 paintings; 2,000 of which are now in America.

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    Speaking of which (& I don't want to get my knuckles wrapped for blatant sales promotion so I'll keep it brief), but I have a couple of sets of PPCo mounts left, & have more of the Whitehead mounts on order from my new machinist. Further, I picked up a small number of the extremely scarce SMLE/Aldis overbore claw mounts from him on Saturday, & jolly nice they are too. You won't see them referred to in TBS but they were developed & made in very small numbers in 1918/19, contemporaneously with the P'14/Pattern 18 by PPCo in London. They are essentially the same in principle to the P'14 mounts, but suitably modded to SMLE receiver contours. I will soon have a few sets available, but will let people know on the wants/sales forum on this site. More mount systems to follow over the next few months!
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