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    War paint

    I know this is a longshot, but before I remove it to see what's underneath my scarlet letter, does anybody recognize this style marking on the base of the pistol grip and perhaps where it might have come from?

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    If you want to see what is underneath the paint, you can always take a piece of foil, place over the spot and the rub the foil with a pencil... it will conform to any indentations... that will add info to your decision to remove the paint or keep it...

    Just my two cents worth,,,,

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    Good idea re foil, thanks. The paint appears to be of several layers, white, yellow, and red, at least, so it's applied pretty thickly. I haven't yet discovered any recognizable pattern of dents (P's, domestic rebuild marks, ???) by examining the yellow area through Photoshop's various manipulations yet. Just hoped this "style" might be recognized as characteristic of some region of the world.

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    CC,

    Just a WAG, but I think it could be an Israeli marking.

    Charlie has a lot of experience with these types of stocks and I bet he'll know what it is. I see he hasn't read this thread yet. (You should email him with a link to this thread). He also had a LOT of experience removing these painted symbols and he might give you some advice how he removes/refinishes. Charlie does some outstanding stock restorations. HTH

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    what's a WAG?

    I've read that Israel stamped with paint the sn on the left side of the stock. And Korea has its own distinctive painting so there does seem to be some regionality to these.

    This piece has no other markings and only stampings which are typical (i.e. listed in books) for a Marlin low wood stock made for Underwood

    I was just planning to use some Jasco to remove it if lacquer thinner didn't do so first. It's filthy. But I think I'll seek out some experienced advice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrossedCannons View Post
    what's a WAG?

    I've read that Israel stamped with paint the sn on the left side of the stock. And Korea has its own distinctive painting so there does seem to be some regionality to these.

    This piece has no other markings and only stampings which are typical (i.e. listed in books) for a Marlin low wood stock made for Underwood

    I was just planning to use some Jasco to remove it if lacquer thinner didn't do so first. It's filthy. But I think I'll seek out some experienced advice.

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    An abbreviation for "wild a**ed guess."

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrossedCannons View Post

    I was just planning to use some Jasco to remove it if lacquer thinner didn't do so first. It's filthy. But I think I'll seek out some experienced advice.

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    Yes, Charlie ('painter777') refurbishes a lot of stocks with various markings, and he knows what he's doing.

    You can send him an email using the link I posted above.

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    It won`t be very helpful but thats what i can see in my Photoshop.

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    Good effort Ulrich!

    I had already tried 'Photoshop' several ways I know of, but I couldn't make anything of the visible indentations under the bright paint.

    They could be any anything. Maybe only a carving or such (?)
    The original stamp would only be a 'P' or maybe a rebuild stamp. It's really not a location to find anything normally valuable.

    There are no visible markings on the stock anyplace else other than the deep rack numbers engraved later by another country.

    There might be more 'history' to the paint than the markings.

    What to do, what to do?


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    Harlan,

    i think this could be a "personal carving" on top of the number 28 for the moment. It gives no sense for me but i`m not an expert. Other ones maybe better detectives.

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