Mosin Nagant 91/30M

[AndyGC]

Hello all,

Interested to know if any of you have had a chance to take one of the new 91/30M's for a test drive?

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[Stevo]

That scope and mount set-up is ridiculously high.

[Aragorn243]

First off, having bought three 91/30's over the last two months, the bores are not substandard at all. All three were excellent. Second, the most I paid for one of these three was $119 and that was for a hex receiver 1927 Tula. The lowest was $79 for a 1942 Ishevsk ex-sniper. The third was a 1936 Tula for $89. I'm going to look at a batch tonight that are going for $99. Not looking to buy but who knows.

Third, I could take the ex-sniper, find a decent gunsmith and convert it for $350 back into sniper configuration, if I wanted to.

And fourth, in the end, this is still a re-arsenaled 91/30 you are throwing $1200+ at. Might be prettier than most but it's still a 91/30.

[AndyGC]

Geez, I was more interested for performance evaluation more than a direct cost comparison to the orriginal 91/30's. If I was buying purley on $$ I would be purchasing an original for $100 also.

In the Manufacturing companies defence, it would cost a significant amount more to produce what they have in the 91/30M than to purchase ex military stock. Also this pricing is in Australia also, where a good 91/30 will cost between $400 & $500.

Stevo, I agree, the mount is too high & this one has been fitted with a specially requested lower mount. It is comfortable to shoot when you get used to the different position your head has to be in !

Out of the box, easily shoots under 1 moa over a sandbag with re-loaded ammo.

[Aragorn243]

Andy,

I'm not sure what your point here is. Are you selling these?

I see no defense for the manufacturing company in selling these for this price. There is a certain value to anything and no matter what you do to it, you aren't going to improve it enough to get over that barrier. An original sniper rifle with WWII setup in original configuration sells for $800 US, not because it is worth it quality wise but because of its collector value and rarity.

It's like taking an old Ford Escort, fixing it up real nice and selling it for $30,000. Why buy it when you can buy a brand new BMW for that price?

I own a lot of firearms and other than a few single shots I own, the Nagant's are the most primitive and simply put together rifles I own. I love them and they function perfectly but if I want to spend $1200 on a top notch shooter, it will be something other than a Nagant. No matter what you do to it, it has about the worst safety I've even seen, impractical for hunting and hard to use on the range.

I have bought two rifles in the last 6 months that are 1 moa out of the box and they cost me $400 complete with scope already mounted and have adjustable triggers and synthetic stocks and in calibers easily reloaded, 243 and 30-06.

On a side note, I did check out the Nagants at Cabela's last night. They didn't put them out on the rack this time around so I didn't spend much time looking. They were selling like crazy, 6 were purchased in the hour that I was there. All six were WWII manufacture, not bad condition but not as nice as the first batch they got in a few months ago.

[AndyGC]

Aragon243,
Yes, I do sell these but I dont make them & I make less than $100 in selling it.

There are several points I am trying to make,

1, you cannot compare prices on a new manufactured rifle to a military surplus rifle (even with a refurbished reciever). And that is not the question that I asked either. I was asking for a review on performance.

2, Australia is not America, snipers sell here at $2400, fake snipers sell for $1500.

3, A comparibale rifle to a newly made AIA Enfield Rifle that is more accurate and comes with a scope, for less money than the AIA - is good value when compared to an equivalint rifle.

[Aragorn243]

Andy,

To each his own I suppose. There's obviously some sort of niche market for these or they wouldn't sell. Doubtful they would do well in the states at all, our markets are simply too diverse for many to justify the cost and while you don't feel you can compare prices, you obviously can and I just did.

It' a nice looker for sure and if it were in the $400 range I'd consider it, just because of the history behind it and the Tula name.

But as is, like others posted, it's too overpriced. I'd hate to be gun shopping in Australia.

I would be curious to see what these would sell for in the States, you guys seem to have the monopoly on them at present.

[powdermonkey72]

these nagants are rebarreled and have brand new stocks. They certainly look the part, and $1200 for a brand new 7.62x54 hunting rifle with such very obvious military lineage is not a bad price. Some people have little idea of firearm availability in countries other than thier own. M38's M44s 91/30's are all easily obtainable here in Australia, but unlike the US, crate upon crate of original snipers were never shipped here and the market price reflects that. I reckon the purchase of a good highwalled round recievered Nagant, rebarreling, bolt work and restocking (to the same quality as the one shown) would run you to nearly $1000 Au, especially if you couldnt do any of the work yourself, so its my opinion that the New Nagant will be a worthy addition to a fair few gunsafes in Australia. Good pig/camel gun.Still waiting for a local review to surface.
Just my thoughts.

[AndyGC]

..yes, that's what I was trying to say !

I have taken a Chital doe with mine, also range tested it (with the scope) was quite impressed.

But same as you looking for a more educated writeup than I can give !

Andy

[ak_milsurp]

THere must be a market for them in OZ or they would not have been made in the first place. As was commented in an earlier reply, the cost in OZ for a standard 91/30 is quite high compaered to the USA or Canada.

I look at it this way.. If it calls to you, and you can afford it, BUY IT!. If not it's still an intruiging curiousity.

BUt the scope mount is INDEED awfully tall! LOL

(I don't chime in here much.... I'm more of a Gunboards regular)