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    Odd IBM M1 Carbine

    I have a Carbine that my father traded for about 45/50 years ago. It has an IBM knurled barrel with no bayonet lug, and has a black/rosy tinted finish instead of a parker finish and matching numbers.

    I took it to a couple of long-time gunsmiths for their evaluation about thirty years ago and one said it was probably an early build and the other said the US exported some to Sweden with that bluing because of the Swedishicon Government specs.

    I don't remember seeing any European style markings that would indicate that, but it has been a long time since I broke it down and inspected it.

    Even though he gave it to me almost 35 years ago, I keep it at my father's home because he still likes to take it outside on his farm occasionally and shoot it. He is 90 and carried a similar weapon in the Pacific and now he wants me to bring it back to my home which has made me start to want to research it's history.

    Any links or even guesses are welcome.

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    crowtalks, welcome to the forum. Pictures are what we need to answere your questions. Can you post some? That would be a great help. Thanks.....Frank

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    Thanks.

    Sure I'll post some as soon as I get the gun back to my home in a day or two

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    Is the number on the peep sight suppose to match the receiver, bolt and slide numbers?

    If it is, then all numbers don't match

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    I just broke it down for the 1st time in over twenty years, and written on the left side of the receiver just below the wood line with one of those electric pencils like jewelers use is: Century Arm Inc,
    St Albans, VT and the the trigger assembly has N16 stamped on it.

    This tell me it is most likely a post 1967 import. I asked my Dad when he traded for it and he didn't remember. I remember shooting it before I started High School, so it was 1971 or before. It didn't have the oiler or strap we he got it, we added those.

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    it's a National Postal Meter carbine with an I.B.M. barrel. the # on the rear sight is the drawing/part # hope this helps.

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    Is the black/rose finish and rough barrel with no bayonet lug common?

    The stock cutout has DD H stamped on it.

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    Your National Postal Meter was made about April 1944 towards the end of production. It did go through a rebuild at some point and with the plum colored trigger housing I would guess it was on an early Bavarian returned carbine imported by Century Arms. The black finish on the barrel is quite normal for rebuilt carbines. The rough finish on the barrel are from the lathe used to turn the barrel down to it's finished diameter.

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    It sounds like you have a post war rebuild NPM carbine. IBM supplied barrels but I don't have my stats with me but I would say it is just as I said, a post war rebuild.

    The barrel band is of slight concern though. The finish op it looks like a "Universal" brand band???
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