LMG/GPMG SCRAM mount

[Kev G]

Having seen two SCRAM mounts at Beltring (as in reproduced pics)



Can someone enlighten me as to what the mount I bought a few years ago with a SCRAM attached goes on ?


ATB Kevin

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[nzl1a1collector]

Landrover?

it might bolt onto the bulkhead

How wide at the uprights, that dimension might clinch it

[Peter Laidler]

There was another called the 'LARCH pole' mount. The general concensus was that there was something just not quite right about sitting or standing in - or even near- the back of a truck while the convoy was being straffed. And their 20 or 30mm bullets were travelling further than your 7.62mm bullets.

The idea for small arms AA fire was as a result of lessons learned from the US in Viet Nam and the Viet Cong experience, where they concentrated small arms fire at ANY passing aircraft (on the basis that they didn't have any to shoot at.......). They caused many casualties and much damage to aircraft skins which eventually rip open.

I went on an AA gunners course at Manorbier in Wales in the 70's, shooting at a long sleeve towed behind an old silver (or was it yellow painted) jet fighter but while the tankies on the course used the .30 Brownings, we thrashed the living daylights out of GPMG/L7's/FN MAG's, call them what you will. Of the zillions of rounds fired by us and the 40mm AA guns there too, I don't think that there was one reported hit. But good fun, specially the day we fired door guns mounted in the helicopters. The hardest bit was to hold your fire until the big towing aircraft, a big fat juicy target if ever I saw one, had passed safely on its way

AA fire................. er........., maybe not with small arms from fixed mountings. But it is still taught from the waist, espcially against helicopters

[Kev G]

KiNZ dimensions as shown.


There is also the top end of a LOUCH pole mounting in the middle to the left.

ATB Kevin

[Peter Laidler]

Yep, that's the other well thought out bit of er........., kit! Louch or Larch. Jeeeeees, didn't they come up with some crap to counter the Soviet Air Force.................?

[DPyper]

Mate who was RAF Regt mentioned that LARCH pole mounts were local manufacture. If you look at the falklands photos of supplementry air defence on ships there is a variety of mountings Be interestied to see if there were any issued mounts or plans.
I fired AAAD at Mannorbeir in the 1990's we had 4 LMG's and 4 GPMG's mounted on Bedford coppla , Land Rover Larch pole x2, Larch pole free standing x2, standing firind from hipx3. We were firing at a MATS-B drone hit it 3 times!

[Kev G]

GPMG on Louch pole -



Anyone have a picture of the LMG on one ?

ATB KG

[DPyper]

Looks like the same ones we used on both

[Peter Laidler]

And the picture shows the reason why the GPMG has a complicated but VERY versatile gas regulator. It's all to do with versatality of course and the ability to action the gun in all weathers, climates and atmospheric conditions but also, to lift and drag great lengths of belt too. In the UK Military, we 'balance' the gun so that the gun just sings along withoiut knocking seven bells out of the buffer. If you need a bit more woomph, because it's freezing outside and the ammo is cold or you need to drag great long belts across, just turn it up a tad

[DPyper]

http://www.hmsglamorgan.co.uk/html/lmg_flight_deck.html

Naval pic of LMG in AAAD role