X & U prefix 4(T)/ L24A1 scope numbers?

[Thunderbox]

Hi all,

this is just a quick appeal/straw poll aimed at anyone who has a matched 4(T) or L42A1 set close to either of the following BSA numbers:

U 323xx

X 319xx

If you have a rifle somewhere close to one of the above - even if its just the prefix - I'd be very grateful if you could give me an indication of the matching Mk3/L1A1 scope number. I imagine both these rifles probably were originally fitted with Mk3s in the 25k range.

Long story, but I'm trying to identify whether a certain scope might have been paired with one of these two rifles. It would be great to at least narrow down the scope number to the last thousand or so.

P.s. if you have an L1A1 scope with a bracket marked to one of these rifles, I'd be very interested in talking to you....

Information

Warning: This is a relatively older thread This discussion is older than 360 days. Some information contained in it may no longer be current.

[jmoore]

I have the following:

https://www.milsurps.com/showthread....oore#post46538

X32xxx (L42a1)

I'll round up the scope number directly if that's close enough in S/N range.

I'm ashamed to admit I don't know if any other of my rifles fall near your numbers. Might be a little bit getting the #'s as the record book is at work and I won't be there for acouple of weeks. That means I'll have to do a physical check.

[jmoore]

???

Hope this helps:

L42a1:

Not near to your prefixes, but still relavent due to it's scope #. (Read further for closer hits):

G31808 has scope #28830 (however it was a late in service replacement for 25812- as evidenced by the barred out numbers on the scope can, and that's the only scope number on the barracks label on the crate.)

(more on the "https://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=19309" L42a1 Photos Thread)

Also: https://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=6159&page=16



A bit more to the point:
V34685 has scope #28899
X32136 has scope #28785






Not quite in ascending order, but nobody else has chimed in...Oh, well.


None of the 303s checked so far has a prefix very close to your numbers.

(I don't reckon letting the S/Ns go public here is any worse than repetition as they're already in Simon's sticky.)

[superbee]

I have L42 rifle # U3603x
mis-matched scope # 2365x
scope mount # AV011x

If your #,s are close,message me for further details.

[Thunderbox]

Thanks fellas.

It seems immediately apparent that there is in fact no close correlation between rifle number/date and scope number.

From my own collection of rifles, scopes, cans, butts:

Rifle - Scope - Maker - Source

V32758 - 25686 - TH&Co - numbers on an L1A1 scope tin (so rifle presumably is an L42)

T32052 - 22699 - AK&S - scope & numbered bracket (original pair?)

V36374 - 23102 - AK&S - scope, bracket & tin set

L30513 - 23888 - AK&S - scope & numbered bracket (original pair?)

AT4264 - 22127 - AK&S - L42A1 matched set (could be replacement scope, as butt is beech)


So, of the definitely originally matched items, it seems that there might be a varience of 5,000 scope numbers just for the "V" prefix rifles alone....

[Peter Laidler]

I didn't want to say anything before Thunderbox but after having seen one or two L42's in my time, there is no correlation between a rifle serial number originalty and telescope numbers.

When you asked the question, I wondered about the result. If you'd asked I could have brought up hundreds of cross referenced numbers but as I said, there's no identifiable correlation I'm afraid