Different 1917 safety question

[shooter62]

My 1917 works fine in every way, except: If I put the safety on with the bolt open, it will fire when the safety of pushed off after the bolt is closed. When a cartridge is chambered with the safety off then the safety works normally. Anybody ever tried this with theirs? Would somebody try it and tell me what happens? thanks

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[OLDER THEN DIRT]

My 1917 works fine in every way, except: If I put the safety on with the bolt open, it will fire when the safety of pushed off after the bolt is closed. When a cartridge is chambered with the safety off then the safety works normally. Anybody ever tried this with theirs? Would somebody try it and tell me what happens? thanks

why would you engage the safety while the bolt is open? you would normaly engage it after round is chambered & bolt is closed. also when gun is cocked & on safe, you can`t open the bolt either.

[shooter62]

why would you engage the safety while the bolt is open? you would normaly engage it after round is chambered & bolt is closed. also when gun is cocked & on safe, you can`t open the bolt either.

True, I'm not going to worry about it since it is something not normally done.

[us019255]

I just tried it with one of my M1017's. Near as I can figure: When the bolt is open and the safety is put on followed by the bolt closing, the sear catches ~1/4" forward of the proper notch on the cocking piece. The cocking piece is visibly farther towards the butt when this happens. When the safety is taken off, the cocking piece falls, to about the right place. Now when the trigger is pulled nothing happens. If the bolt is raised, and lowered (but not pulled to the rear) things are now back to normal and the firing pin can fall.

I did not try this with a live round in the chamber, as I don't want holes in my gun room ceiling!

[shooter62]

I just tried it with one of my M1017's. Near as I can figure: When the bolt is open and the safety is put on followed by the bolt closing, the sear catches ~1/4" forward of the proper notch on the cocking piece. The cocking piece is visibly farther towards the butt when this happens. When the safety is taken off, the cocking piece falls, to about the right place. Now when the trigger is pulled nothing happens. If the bolt is raised, and lowered (but not pulled to the rear) things are now back to normal and the firing pin can fall.

I did not try this with a live round in the chamber, as I don't want holes in my gun room ceiling!

Thanks, that is exactly what mine does. Guess they all do that. Who would try engaging the safety while operating the bolt besides me At first I thought the cocking piece was falling all the way but realized it only falls to the normal location exactly like you said.

[Harlan (Deceased)]

Thanks for checking to see if it worked the same way with your 1917 us019255. That was nice of you.
(I was curious too after the subject came up)

I suppose that it wasn't one of those things of any real functional importance; it was only one of those occasions where someone else could check on their gun to see if they all do the same. If it was my rifle and I had come across something that seemed odd I would have wanted to know.
If it had turned out to be a unique characteristic only to my gun, I'd have to find out why it was functioning differently -
Even if I had to break down and ship it to that grouchy ol' gunsmith in Denver!