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    Types

    Can someone expalin what is meant by Type 1, 2, 3 parts?
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    Smile The carbine was cutting edge technology of the time.

    And , it was rushed from the developing boards to production as quick as was posible. While they did an excelent job of this , compared with other examples such as the M16icon , some problems did crop up ( bolt cracking , for example) that HAD to be addressed . There was also a continuing development of user friendly changes and changes resulting in increased production. The result of this is that just about every part went through it's own stages of evolution. These stages are called types by collectors , and the number increases with the time of the introduction. It is a shorthand way to put everyone on the same page about that part. What the difference is between a type1 and a type 2 varies between each part. It is not and has never been a military usage identifier.
    HTH , Chris

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    Rocky,
    Pick up the book written by Craig Riesch........
    U.S. M1icon Carbines
    Wartime
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    6TH Edition


    It has it's share of errors, but makes for a great starter book. Then pick up War Baby by Larry Ruth.

    USGI WW2 .30 Cal. M1 Carbine Collector Book New 6th Ed - eBay (item 360317879554 end time Nov-15-10 17:02:56 PST)

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    Rocky,

    I agree with Charlie and I'd add to the list Bruce Canfield's book:
    Complete Guide to the M1icon GARAND and the M1 CARBINE

    The book explains in some detail, but in an easy to understand and fun to read style, many of unknowns and misunderstandings we all have when we begin collecting carbines. He wrote this book particularly for new(er) collectors and it also has tons of great photos to go along with the text. Advanced collectors probably know most things he explains in the book, but after you read it you'll know enough to understand most things advanced collectors are talking about. I didn't read it until a couple of years ago but I wished I'd read it first.

    He doesn't intend it to be a book containing all the codes and data you'll eventually need as you try to determine all the correct codes, etc, and he even recommends at the beginning of his book that you'll also need WAR BABY and WAR BABY II for complete data info as you go farther into collecting.

    He also hates the crooks who ruin collecting for less experienced collectors and tries to cover many of the things to look out for.

    I recommend them in this order -

    Canfield - Interesting, informative and moderately priced. (Like an interesting set of WWII TIME LIFE Books)

    WAR BABY! - Expensive, but the heart of all your carbine books. (More like a set of encyclopedias - Complete and serious reading, but it's a Must Have) even if you don't get anything else.

    Riesch - Inexpensive, but not a lot to it. Just the basics, etc. (Small enough to take to gun shows - Most boring of all)

    WAR BABY! II - Expensive and covers a lot about post WWII carbines plus many of the commercial carbines.
    (Kind of like masters degree type of book)

    WAR BABY III - Just got mine a few months ago, but haven't read it yet.

    I'm sure it'll be expensive, but I can hardly wait. (Hey, has anyone heard anything about it lately???)

    Check around Amazon, and sometimes you can get you can a good deal on Ebay, but be careful not to get an old edition. Especially Riesch -
    There are errors and/or disagreements in all of them, but my 5th Ed of Riesch is a mess.

    JMO,
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