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I solved the fake problem by only buying from other forum members! Actually, all I have bought is a nice IO stock and a nice IO handguard for my CMP
Inland. Oh, I forgot, an unmarked push safety that was a used original for $35 delivered,
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Originally Posted by
imarangemaster
I solved the fake problem by only buying from other forum members! Actually, all I have bought is a nice IO stock and a nice IO handguard for my
CMP Inland. Oh, I forgot, an unmarked push safety that was a used original for $35 delivered,
I recently bought two Type II push safeties, both from trusted sources. One is a repro, and so advertised ($10) and the other advertised as USGI ($35.00). Both are unmarked as would be correct for my carbines. My untrained eye sees no difference in the two. How does one tell the difference in such a small simple item?
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My 2 cents, FWIW
Re: such high percentage of positive feedback for vendors of reproduction carbine parts, I think there are several reasons. I agree inexperienced folks buy the stuff, it fits and works on their 'new' carbine, they leave positive feedback, get educated, learn it is fake and then don't patronize the humper anymore. Some buy it and never get educated and live forever in bliss. Some buy it knowing it is fake to fill in until they can find a real part and are ashamed to leave any feedback at all ( I admit to doing this once and will never again). Some don't ask the necessary questions before they bid or buy based on poor or limited photos and descriptions, are guilty of 'wishful thinking' and then rightfully accept the responsibility, leaving no feedback, if they can't return the item ("guilty"). Some bidders realize they have screwed up but don't leave negative feedback for fear of receiving 'payback' from the seller. Humpers rarely claim the counterfeit part they are selling to be an original USGI part, and when they do they simply take it back if called on it, with the buyer paying the freight, and sell it again to a less knowledgeable buyer. Don't get me wrong - it takes two to culminate a bad deal and the buyer has reponsibility in any purchase, perhaps just as much as the seller.
But I think the most prevalent reason so many humpers have ginormous positive feedback numbers is the shill bidding. I have no idea how extensive or sophisticated (read 'quid pro quo') the shill bidding is but I suspect it is off the board. A vendor can shill bid 2 or 3 times under different names to get the price up a little (or a lot) and create interest from the unsuspecting neophyte mark who bids more, thinking it must be good because other bidders think so, wins the part and is tickled sh_tless until sometime after he leaves positive feedback. If the mark doesn't bid, the humper pays the 1%-3% fee and gives himself a positive feedback. If he only hits occasionally he makes more money and his feedback rating is constantly enhanced either way. Bottom line - Caveat Emptor has meaning.
I pay almost no attention to feedback of any sellers I deal with, nor to that of competing bidders, particularly since the online auctions have had several years now to mature and build up fedback volume in multiple shill accounts. We have all made mistakes in buying parts based upon pictures and limited/ambiguous descriptions, and we have all been burned at one time or another. I am utterly ashamed of purchases I have made not so long ago and wonder what I was thinking at the time. But we all have to pay for most education (unless we live in Kalifornicatia) and I believe my previous 'payments' have made me better equiped to play responsibly and sort out the chaff at this stage of the game. I wish the same for those new carbine enthusiasts enjoying this forum. JMHO, Merry Christmas, ChipS
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The seller is located in the land of Fruit and Nuts too just like George. Got to make one wonder eh?
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I'm lost..........
Can't figure out how you guys found out George was the buyer.
Plus the seller lists address as Troy, Ohio.... Not important I guess but-
BTW check out the H.I. stock this seller Loren1photo is selling......
M1 CARBINE STOCK MARKED HI - eBay (item 370465151676 end time Dec-16-10 18:36:29 PST)
Recoil plate seat is gone and has any one ever seen a H.I. Inland stock with the 2 jig/tooling holes under the butt plate?
Looking at their other carbine items is enough for me to call it a night.
Especially the buttplates, bands and that dated sling.......
loren1photo items - Get great deals on Collectibles, Toys Hobbies items on eBay.com!
This would be funny if it wasn't costing someone $$.
Charlie-painter777
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painter777
Considering the condition of the stock, the cartouches are in remarkably pristine condition. Wonder of wonders.
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i did a little digging.
on ebay, you can search by bidder
http://shop.ebay.com/ebayadvsearch/_..._dmd=1&_ipg=50
I used this and searched by all of George's ID's for all auctions, included ended auctions
ABCleigh
xyzleigh
m1carbineparts-com
It will also show you what they bid on and won, or didnt win
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