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Grooved trigger on a No.4?
I thought I saw some pictures of a No.4 Enfield with a grooved trigger. Was I seeing things or do they exist? If they do indeed exist how common are they?
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01-26-2011 09:13 PM
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Yes grooved triggers can be found on No4 rifles. How common they are I can't say----I have them scattered at random across a range running from a 1941 Maltby through a 1957 BSA conversion Mk1/2.
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Trials No4s and early Long Branch rifles had them. Have seen the odd early Savage with one too. One of the features inherited from the SMLE and trials No4s that was discarded as production was simplified.
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Originally Posted by
Surpmil
Trials No4s and early Long Branch rifles had them. Have seen the odd early Savage with one too. One of the features inherited from the SMLE and trials No4s that was discarded as production was simplified.
So finding one in good usable condition without a rifle attached might be some what of a problem?
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If you just want a grooved trigger for firing purposes, pop one out of an SMLE triggerguard and fit it to your rifle.
The SMLE trigger will have two horizontal grooves above the longitudinal cuts, the No4 trigger just has the longitudinal cuts tapering out---so there is a slight style difference, if you are looking at some collector's angle.
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I want one for firing purposes. I didn't know a no.1 would fit. Thanks for the info.
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The No.1 trigger fits and works great. I like the feal of the grooved trigger much better. Thanks for the tip krinko.
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Spot on!
The geometry of the two triggers is the same. Ditto the sears.The No4 styles are cosmetically simplified to improve production rates.
You can even use a complete striker/ cocking-piece assembly from one bolt in the other, allowing for adjustments for protrusion etc.. You have to use a set as the thread at the rear of the striker is different between the two rifles. The striker spring is identical.
Note that the AIA M-10 uses a SMLE style trigger, (made to original drawings), primarily because the designer liked the feel and look of it.
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