VICTORY MODEL? 45 and R on barrel

[Claven2]

I'm thinking it might be a 2nd model hand ejector frame, originally in .455, with a more modern .45ACP barrel added? I could be mistaken, but the bbl looks a little too short to be a real .455 first model barrel - no?

[browningautorifle]

Claven; The BBl was shortened at both ends.

[DaveN]

I'm thinking it might be a 2nd model hand ejector frame

The 2nd didn't have the heavy ejector shroud that this one has per the pictures I'm looking at(2010 Standard catalog of FIREARMS), and the triple lock is only on the 1st as the 2nd and 3rd did not have the triple lock but the heavy ej/shroud was reinstated with the 3rd model. Just an obsevation and a rare display of reading comprehension.

[jmoore]

The clue that solves the barrel riddle is the oblong ejector rod lock the prtotudes from the front of the shroud. It's unique to triple locks.

[Mohawk]

AR Stands for .45 auto rimmed. I can post a pic of one if You need. It was a rimmed .45 ACP that was used in lieu of the half moon clips. Sells for about $100 a box, If You can find it.....

[jmoore]

AR in this case also stands for "Ain't Real"- original to the gun as manufactured, that is. Post-conversion marking done after the cylinder rear was faced off.

[DaveN]

So even though a 45 colt fits the cylinder it can't be fired in this gun, only the 45 AR that's $100 and hard to find and most likely made by elves or Elvis, or 45 ACP and the 1/2 moon clips. I just want to be able to inform a buyer of the situation if it ever arises.

[jmoore]

Correct assesment, DaveN.

[emmagee1917]

If the .45 ACP with 1/2 moons or full moons will fit and close , the back of the cylinder has been cut forward and the 45 Long Colt would have excessive headspace . If it will not close , then it may have been converted to 45LC. The 45 Autorim is rare and expensive because EVERYONE uses the full moon clips now , fastest reloads on the planet , cheep reloaders , and your brass stays in one easy to find and pick up clump . It's not really bad news unless he HAS to have 45LC.
Chris

[Johnny Peppers]

.45 Colt and .45 Auto Rim. .45 Colt is one of the calibers that went through a name change. It was simply .45 Colt as there was never a .45 Short Colt, but over the years it became know as .45 Long Colt. Same for the Super .38, as over the years it was turned around and became .38 Super.