M1-D Garand, correct?

[big bear]

I hope this is the right place to ask this question. I have an M1-D garand I bought 20 years ago. If I give Sn, markings on rifle and stock would it be possible to verify it's correct. I can post pictures the next time one of my kids comes for a visit, sorry can't do it sooner, just can't figure it out.

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[Badger]

I think we can help somewhat, but could you check the top of the rifle behind the rear sight and tell us who the manufacturer is?

Regards,
Badger

[sdh1911]

You also might want to look at the barrel #, it should be 77,XXX-HTH-SDH

[big bear]

O.K., dug it out of safe. Story at time of purchase was that it belonged to a retired Philipino military officer who had retired in Canada. It is a Springfield manufacture.SN1701xxxx. Barrel has either a funny looking V or a smeared M then what looks like oD, then S-A 1-52, these markings on right side of barrel visible when bolt opened.P in circle on pistol grip with a 3 on heel of buttstock. Leather cheekpiece marked MRT with 2 52 below came on rifle. Telescope M84 serial# 69xx mounted on scope.Thanks for any info. I like rifle alot whether "authentic" or not so knowledgeable opinions won't hurt my fee;ings or shatter any dreams. Thanks!

[Badger]

You need to use the full serial number, but here's a couple of links that will help you ...

Springfield Garand Serial Number Check (click here)

Dick Culver's M1 Rifle Serial Number Web Page (click here)

One way to tell if a Garand sniper is a "put together" versus authentic is the barrel? Correct sniper rifles should be marked "-D73112555 A155B-" along with the barrel date.

We have one that hasn't had an entry created yet for the MKL, but it was re-barreled in June 1952 "SA-6-52" with correct M1D sniper barrel "-D73112555 A155B-"

M1D Garand Sniper Rifle Serial # 2640920
(Mfg by Springfield in March 1944)
c/w Dutch M84 (2.5x) Scope Serial # 25827

All M1D barrels were stamped with drawing number D7312555. M1D barrels manufactured through the fall of 1952 had the drawing number stamped on the top, underneath the rear hand guard. M1D barrels manufactured after the fall of 1952 had the drawing number stamped on the right side, adjacent to the date. Here's an example.......


(Click PIC to Enlarge)

Regards,
Badger

[big bear]

So I have to take the top handguard off to see the marking?How doyou do that, don't want to wreck anything!

[Lee Enfield]

I hope this is the right place to ask this question. I have an M1-D garand I bought 20 years ago. If I give Sn, markings on rifle and stock would it be possible to verify it's correct. I can post pictures the next time one of my kids comes for a visit, sorry can't do it sooner, just can't figure it out.

Serial numbers cannot help with a M1D model.

ALL M1Ds are conversions. The "only" way to tell originallity is via the barrel drawing number as Badger ect. have pointed out.

Where the confusion probably stems from is that M1Cs were done in batches, and the serial number ranges are generally known or inferable.

[Badger]

Lots of material available here, including a very thorough video ...

M1 Garand Rifle

DEPARTMENT OF THE ARMY FIELD MANUAL
FM 23-5 for the U.S. Rifle, CALIBER .30, M1 (click here)

Short video on reloading M1 Garand (click here)

Also, posted in The Screening Room (click here).

M1 Garand (Stripping & Assembling) ... click here

Or... play it here now if you want.......

Mouse Click on the film strip thumbnail.



Regards,
Badger

[sdh1911]

The way it was explained to me by a guy who was in the import business for over 30 years and a whole lot smarter than I'll ever be. As pointed out in the forum the gun were most definitely, parts guns, no exceptions. The M1 Barrel with block assembly was marked with a 77,XXX number. Now, I am not entirely certain if it was only the block and barrel assemble, late barrel, early barrel etc. But, the ones he showed me were marked under the op-rod, as a matter of fact, they had a pile of them at that time and were all marked in that fashion. does this mean anything, Not really, only that that batch were marked in that fashion and this is why I will never collect U.S. Martial arms again. I was at it over 20 years and even the "guru's" don't agree very often and there is not such thing as buy a gun that was issued, only correct as issued-HTH, SDH