Where can I purchase a No 7 ?

[DaveN]

Are Lee Enfield No 7s still out there for a low price. I'm asking the Enfield community here for info on the No 7 the one that is Incomplete, no bolt. Are there specific dealers that carry them? Or has that ship sailed?

I will be attending three or four gun shows in the next 30 days, 2 that will be new to me ( Orlando and Volusia County) What sort of price should I expect if I find one? Whats too much for a wall hanger? What price for a complete shooter?
Thanks much!

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[newcastle]

Complete shooter No.7 ??? that would be a tough to find and a grand plus the rest to buy it. I've been looking for a long while now.

[Sht_LE]

I fear that ship has sailed..... The incomplete rifles were sold by Springfield Sporters, but they stopped listing them as avalable in 1998 or so, and they are no longer an FFL dealer. For the past several years Springfield Sporters has only sold parts. And at this point Enfields of any discription are no longer what you would call "Military Surplus" because there is no surplus of Enfields. I work firearms retail and try to stay up to date with what everyone has. The only Enfields you can actually get from any importer are DP rifles that have had the bolt heads welded up or the chambers drilled. It seems the well has run dry as I have not seen any of my suppliers list Enfields as avalable for several years now (the exception to the rule is Brian at BDL Ltd. who still has some nice No.4s, but his came in some years back if I recall). As for the British No.7, the last complete one I saw sold on Gunbroker for something around $1200 USD a year or so ago, and I have not seen an incomplete No.7 for sale in 8-9 years.

Oddly in regards the "Military Surplus" rifles a friend and I were talking about this very thing at work today and his thoughts reflected my own in that other than the 91/30 Mosin Nagants that are still avalable in quantity there really are no WWI or WWII vintage rifles avalable as surplus any more.

[Brian B]

I sold one on Gunbroker less than a year ago. It was Brit with a Springfield Sporters hang tag. It had the mag without the insert. It also had the back half of the bolt, but was missing all of the rest of the bolt parts. It brought just $300. I probably should have kept it. Hindsight is 20/20. I still have a pair of complete ones in the safe so all is not lost.

Brian B

[smellie]

There likely still are small lots out there in places where the big dealers haven't been, and God alone knows what's out there There are still a third of a million (or possibly only 30,000, depending on whose figures are correct, if any) Lee .43 rifles out there which haven't hit the market. Where are the Thai Mannlicher 95s? The Chilean straight-pulls? All the 95 Mannlichers used by Greece, Yugoslavia, Italy, Bulgaria, Romania and a bunch of other places. Where ae all the Rosses that Rusia got? They had 2/3 of total production of the Mark III.... and only a few target rifles have come out to clean up in the matches Latvian P-14s? Latvian Rosses? What about the fabled .303 Mausers? Were those not Lithuanian or Estonian?

SOME of them still exist, certainly. It's just a case of getting Governments to let a few escape the shredder.

But until that happens, the MNs ARE indeed IT.

Sad world.
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[Alan de Enfield]

There were only ever 2500 (UK) No7 Mk1 manufactured so - deduct the number of 'unfinished' ones and the remaining number is probably around 2000.
Compare this to 20,000+ No4Ts and that, in my book, puts No7's as a 'rarity'.

UK price for a very good one - £1200 - £1500 ($2000) unless you can find one where the seller is not completely aware of what it is.

[Old Lancer]

As has been stated recently in other threads, there are only two values for anything, the price you want to sell for and the price someone is willing to pay. So bearing this in mind it may or may not surprise you all to know that a good mate of mine just paid AUS$3400 for a complete and all correct No7 at that recent collection breakup auction, as the wise man says
"they ain't making ant more". So,all you lucky No7 owners out there, thats the new benchmark for your rifles value.

[smellie]

Interesting.

The Canadian version, being the C No. 7, was different mechanically although the same idea.

Anyone know the number of C No. 7 rifles made?

And how about the 'Long Branch .22"', which was the War 2 prototype for the C No. 7?

I have rather a nice "Long Branch", a 1944 with a PH4 rear sight. Shoots VERY well.
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[muffett.2008]

Check Collectors source, pump in Lee Enfield and have a look, I'm sure there was one there amongst the 8's and 9's, along with some other nice bits. Go for it.

[Badger]

Anyone know the number of C No. 7 rifles made?

MKL entry ...

Great article by "stencollector" ...

Qty Mfg: ...................... Estimated at 20,000+

1944 C No.7 .22 Caliber Lee-Enfield Training Rifle

Regards,
Doug