Springfield M1922 M11

[mgb8345]

Thought maybe some of you might like to see some pictures of this rifle. I was lucky enough to purchase it from a friend on Saturday. From reading T Batha's book I think it is an M1 that was refurbished and brought up to M2 standards. The serial number is 12075B and it has the 1 added that does not line up after the 1922 M1. It has been D&T'd as show in Batha's book also with one extra hole in the receiver. The other two flaws are a previous owner engraved his SSN on the left side of the receiver and the trigger guard. It appears to me to have the phosphate finish. If any of you can tell me any more information I would be appreciative. Thanks for looking. Bob
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[Herschel]

mgb8345, You are correct in identifying the model of your rifle. It would have been upgraded to M2 configuration in about 1938. The upgraded included replacing the bolt, magazine and stock with the M2 type and refnishing the metal. Too bad about the holes in the stock as they really cut the value but do not hurt it as a shooter. The bolt should have the serial number of the rifle etched on the bottom and the original barrel would have been dated about 1928. The magazine in your rifle appears to be an aftermarket one. They have reputation of being unreliable. If yours functions then that is great. An original magazine will cost in excess of $100 on one of the internet auctions. If you find an original magazine it will be stamped M2 in small letters on the top left hand side. Magazines lacking the M2 are for the 1922M1. Congratulations on getting a nice rifle.

[mgb8345]

Herschel, Thank you sir. I sent you a PM thru the CMP site just moments ago. Appreciate your input. Bob

[Herschel]

I can't find a way to edit my post. In my post above I intended to say holes in receiver. Not holes in stock as there are no evident holes in stock.

[cammerguy]

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Congrats on your rifle! After 30 years I finally got an M2 well actually 2 . One is a reworked M1 in the 48XX s/n range with a 12-25 barrel date and a tiny B after the s/n. I guess they didn't have std number stamps? I've seen so many different sizes. The other is an M2 s/n 126xx with a 8-37 barrel date and a circle P on the stock grip. The MII is the one thats been sanded lightly but the S.A H is still easily readable the stock and the M2 has S.A. R I guess different inspectors at rebuild? My dad gave me an ROTC book from the 50's when I was a kid and it shows the 1922 so I always wanted one and when they were $400-600 at my local gun shows 25 years ago that was lots of money to me making min wage! So these 2 came up for auction with a min bid around 400 and I went ahead and bid on them both thinking no way would I get either much less both! But oops I got both lol! I just picked em up from my FFL yesterday and wow was I happy. I'd say both are VG-EXC with 90% + finish (well refinish!). So question for Herschel since he's the man on these I gather....

Can you tell me if the barrels seem right for the s/n's?

And I've read (somewhere) that they did refinishng/rebuilding in 1938ish? Is that right or were there other overhaul periods. It seems odd they would rebuild a 1 year old trainer though my m2 had the stock cartouche which seems to indicate a rebuild.

To me the M2 appears unfired since new or rebuilt. the stock has never been sanded and the mag is unscratched except the tip of the follower where the bolt touches. Yes I know it can't be true lol.

So anyway these were my B day present to me. I bought my first o3a3 when I was a kid in 83 for $175 and now I finally got the >22 I always wanted!

Really good August! Enjoy that rifle, they are the best!

[Albayo]

I have one of the M2s and it isn't going anywhere soon. I waited 5 or 6 years to get it and was surprized to find it has hardly been used. I found an extra mag on CGN at a reasonable price and scooped it up. I have an 03 Springfield with a 1922 or an M2 bolt and barrel, it looks great but isn't of any historic significance.

[Herschel]

Albayo,

Congratulations on getting the M2. Here are a few things to look for to evaluate it for original condition.
1. The rifle's serial number should be etched on the bottom of the bolt.

2. If the serial number is lower than approx 4300 it originally would have had the non-adjustable M2 bolt. These are easy to recognize as the locking lug looks just like the safety lug on a 1903 Springfield.

3. The rifle left Springfield Armory with the bolt well (round channel the bolt moves in) in the white. If it is parkerized, the rifle has been refinished.

4. If it is in the NRA stock (no grasping grooves and thick steel buttplate) and is drilled and tapped for scope blocks it might be one of the 80 or so M2 Sales Rifles.

Very few of the M2 Rifles escaped refinishing. I would say less than 5%. If you have one with the original finish you are very lucky.

[Albayo]

I will have to check out your points Herschel, I really appreciate your help.