No Threads on end of Swedish Mauser

[Tul8202]

Need help with a Swedish Mauser

I just picked up a very nice 96 that had been changed to a 38.

It all looks good, part numbers all match, but the barrel dose not have the normal

threads on the end of the barrel.

Do not understand the no thread issue on an otherwise very good looking rifle.

Any suggestions??

Thanks

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[m4a3sherman]

Not all were threaded- I think only the later ones were. The threads, of course, are for the blank-firing adapters which shredded the wooded bullets in training rounds.

[xa-coupe]

I have never owned one with threads so I wouldn't sweat it.

[Patrick Chadwick]

It all looks good, part numbers all match, but the barrel dose not have the normal threads on the end of the barrel.

Time to clear up a couple of Swedish myths that surface every now and again.
As already pointed out by m4a3sherman:
1) Not all rifles were threaded.
I would go further than that - the majority of those I have seen were not threaded (but that could be importer selection)
2) The thread was NOT for a flash hider, muzzle brake, grenade launcher, or tea kettle - regardless of what imaginative sellers and dealers say,
3) The thread was ONLY for the attachment of a blank-firing adapter, as already stated.

and, IMOH,
4) Since the blank-firing rifles were those used by the ordinary soldiers on training exercises, a rifle WITHOUT a thread is statistically more likely to have been kept for serious target shooting, i.e. a better rifle.

Be GLAD that you have a rifle without the thread!

Patrick


P.S: Oh, and while we're at it:
5) In 2011, the stock disk no longer gives any reliable indication of the state of the barrel. Firstly, the inspection was maybe half a century ago, and no-one knows how the rifle has been treated since, and secondly, those disks have been swapped from other rifles and copied so often that they have no guarantee vaue whatsoever. Check the barrel, not the disk!

[m4a3sherman]

Wait, you mean that authentic foot-warmer attachment they sold me on sportsmans guide that uses blanks to work a heater and simply screws right on is a fake?!? Curses!

Haha
But this does bring up a good point- I work in a gun shop and spend many weekends raiding local and semi-local pawn shops and get to see a wide variety of rifles "customized.". It never ceases to amaze me the things I've found screwed, bolted, welded, or, my favorite, duct-tapped on the ends of milsurp rifles. I've even seen a swedish Mauser not cut for the adapter with a flash hider tac welded on the end just the same... Made me laugh then cringe...

[Patrick Chadwick]

The "Best" worst Swede I ever saw was some years ago, before I got involved with this forum, and I did not think of taking a picture. It was an M96 that some nerd of a hunter had fired with a plugged muzzle (mud, snow?). The barrel had not split. That Swedish steel was good. Instead, it had developed an onion-shaped end, making it look like a Russian church spire. In Mauserland, that made it scrap. Where you are, one could perhaps have bought it and made a D-I-Y M38 out of it.

Patrick

[Patrick Chadwick]

I've even seen a Swedish Mauser not cut for the adapter with a flash hider tac welded on the end just the same... Made me laugh then cringe...

What can make a grown shooter cry, is to see guns ruined by ignorant people's pre-emptive obedience to imaginary regulations that only exist in their fearful minds. Like a flintlock (which anyone can buy and hang on the wall - no licensing or gun-safe regulations, or de-act requirements) - that has been totally unnecessarily "de-acted" for decoration, by drilling holes along the barrel and welding up the touch-hole. ACWOTAM.

Patrick

[m4a3sherman]

You know I'm trying to imagine the bulbusy end of that m96... A guy brought us a horror story of an 1891 mosin nagant, a Remington at that, which had been chopped to about 17" and had a 1903 Springfield front sight that had been welded to an AK74 Muzzle break and in term welded to the barrel. I can only assume they drilled out the muzzle break to fit the larger round. Anyway, the 'custom' front sight assembly kept falling off during shooting and he asked if we could fix it. Fortunately we convinced him to let us put a mount on it and scope it without a front sight. But he did ask the value of it and when I told him it was more or less worthless to any sort of collector, you'd have thought I'd shot him. He seemed to think his modifications had INCREASED the value!

Sigh... Hey, so post some pictures of your rifle if you like tul8 , we'd love to see it and might be able to tell you more about it.

[Tul8202]

I appreciate all the info. Interesting rifle with an interesting history

Will shoot it next week.

Thanks

Tul8202

[rich v]

Thats a good thing...