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    Questionable No. 32 Scope Can

    For everyone's enjoyment. What appears to me to be a new, repro, scope can with inaccurate markings ( WD marked and OS number engraved, not stamped, just to start) that has been in the seller's "collection for around 20 years"?

    LEE ENFIELD No32 SCOPE TIN | eBay
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    FOR AUCTION FROM MY COLLECTION IS THIS FANTASTIC LEE ENFIELD No32 SCOPE TIN THIS HOLDS THE SCOPE WITH ITS MOUNT ATTACHED TO IT WHICH THEN SCREWS ON TO THE 2 LUGS INSIDE THE TIN. THIS IS A VERY RARE AND HARD TO FIND ITEM I HAVE HAD THIS IN MY COLLECTION FOR AROUND 20 YEARS PLUS. ITS ALL MARKED & DATED AS CAN BE SEEN FROM THE PICTURES.
    I HAVE NEVER SEEN ONE FOR SALE ON ITS OWN YET SO DON'T MISS OUT ON SUCH A FANTASTIC ITEM.

    PLEASE FEEL FREE TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS

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    Why do you think the markings are engraved? He did put chalk or some such in the lettering.

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    The can markings of the era were what we used to call 'roll stamped' I can't explain it accurately but a roller was pressed down and rolled across the surface. The reverse markings on the roller wheel embossed the marking onto the steel surface. The drawback was that it slightly stretched or distorted the material so the scope can always seemed to have a 'buckled' appearance. That's my experience.

    You can see engraving because the rotating tool always leaves a spin mark at the bottom of the cut - unless it's a diamond tipped 'scratchy pen' type

    If I had any doubt, I'd ask the vendor to guarantee, in writing, its originality. THat usually rocks their boat into the error of their ways if it is a duffer. Not that it affects me as I've never had the need to buy one!

    Off thread slightly, it's a bit like asking the seller to guarantee, in writing, the future safety of a DP ONLY rifle
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    Very nice, but was BE making MkI cases in 1944?

    And that WD stamp looks decidedly Victorian to my eye.
    “There are invisible rulers who control the destinies of millions. It is not generally realized to what extent the words and actions of our most influential public men are dictated by shrewd persons operating behind the scenes.”

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    I wonder why the figure 1 in Mk1 is different to the figure 1 in 1944. On our Taylor Hobson Panto engravers, that Mk1 figure is a capital i while the 1 in 1944 is a figure 1.

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    Because the Mk. "One" is a Roman numeral "capital i" No dramas there!

    I'd do photos, but my cases are ~60 km away.

    Lemme see if there's other photos easily available...
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    The WD marking is the same mark they were putting on the repro scope mounts. Maybe the 20 year time in the collection is the same as kid that has to wait for something....a long 20 minutes becomes a year...
    The can is what is it.....a repro can...........

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    From the MKLicon:

    https://www.milsurps.com/content.php...)-Sniper-Rifle

    Photo #119:
    http://imageevent.com/badgerdog/brit...1&m=24&w=0&p=0

    To see a close up directly here's a comparative photo for a 1941 case:
    http://imageevent.com/badgerdog/brit...=0&w=1&s=0&z=9

    It's a little different, but three years out, so...time to look some more.

    Link to photos of reproduction scope tins:

    See read6737's Post #22
    https://www.milsurps.com/showthread....ighlight=scope
    See ickmann's Post #57
    https://www.milsurps.com/showthread....ighlight=scope
    Last edited by jmoore; 07-30-2011 at 11:46 AM.

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