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    Question on stocking up

    So I have the projetc I'm on at present and I'm workign on stockign up this No.4 Mk1/2. Everything fits JUST about correctlyu, draws are tight and levaing marks where the metal contacts the wood. no daylight betweene forend and buttstock. There is ONE small detail.
    when the receiver is firmly pushed into the forend the barrel is high and slightly left of the center of the forend. When the barrel is in the groove the reciever is slightly high at the rear. The pivot point appears to be just about where the king screw goes but i cannot see any specific places where there is contact more than anywhere else. Plus it's only slightly high. should I leave this as it and fit everything else and see how it settles or does this need to be dealt with now, and if so how do i figure out the exact place that needs to be relieved?
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    You do need to gently relieve the high area in order to get the receiver to sit correctly. There are several methods, but I use the talcum powder method previously described. Dust the entire rear of the forend, and oil the metal. Reassemble and screw up tight. Dissemble, and then check where the metal is leaving the strongest marks.

    The flat base of the receiver around the front magazine screw ("King" screw) is often a shade too high when new wood is fitted. You have to use a sharp flat blade to gently scrape this area down so that it allows the receiver to transfer some of the bearing pressure to the underside of the barrel.

    Note that the receiver may twist if it is pivoting - leading to the offset barrel - or this may be caused by one of the sidewalls being a bit high. Particularly check where the magazine cut-off boss and also the bolthead release catch fit - often these bear against the sidewall and are enough to push the barrel off-centre.


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    Talcum powder and oil tried. When I was actually tightening up the screws with the trigger guard it appears that the flat base around the king screw didn't really touch the wood significantly. Is this the king screw washer causing the problem by being too long?

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    Yes, in short. I also suggest you read up a bit more before you go any further. This spacer plays an important part in the fitting and assembly of the fore-end. Can someone a bit more computer literate than me tell him how tro find the thread that deals with the collar and how to adjust it properly

    It's not the king screw either. That can get a bit confusing. It's exactly what it does. It's the front trigger guard scxrew

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    Quote Originally Posted by newcastle View Post
    Talcum powder and oil tried. When I was actually tightening up the screws with the trigger guard it appears that the flat base around the king screw didn't really touch the wood significantly. Is this the king screw washer causing the problem by being too long?
    I should have clarified: do all of the wood fitting without the collar being fitted. Once you have the bedding sorted, you then trim the collar to the correct length - i.e. so that the front trigger guard screw pulls the receiver down into the forend firmly, but so that no compression of the wood under the triggerguard occurs.

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    Plenty there to chew on.
    BTW while we're on it, when in the fitting process do you fit the collar, I did a No4Mk2 last week and the wood was a bit chewed by the time the forend was fitted. So I had to relieve the trigger guard area a bit to get the trigger guard to sit flat again.
    Also I was fitting a forend that had a very tight fitting end around the muzzle. I relieved it a bit so that I could tell when the barrel was centred of its own accord (relieved by 1 mm or so in width). Was/is there any trick to this,ie. how do you tell the barrel is naturally centred in a factory forend where the muzzle end is securelycentred with no play left and right by the barrel channel?
    And if you're reading this Peter, how long does it take you to fit up a forend perfectly from say a new forend or a newly patched one? I've found some are taking me a long time... and some are taking me FOREVER. Still, they seem to come out shooting right, which is the aim of the game.[COLOR="black"]
    Last edited by tbonesmith; 07-31-2011 at 05:29 PM.

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