Making Up a Useable No.1 MkIII HT Sniper

[newbieDAN]

I've seen those mounts before, but are a little cheaper now....I think the front is close, but the rear is quite a bit different...but could be modified.

I need to ask if the bases would fit a genuine scope rings, because as a matched pair wouldn't necessarily have to. (which I've just done)

But it might be worth a shot.

Dollars look good.

[newbieDAN]

The guys from Accumounts replied:

"It's very unlikely it will fit the original rings"

I gave them some measurments, no joy....mentions they ship from an overseas location, maybe doesn't have them on hand to check.

[bigduke6]

Dan,

If you knock me up a set of precise plans/drawings I will make you a set, as I,m after a set myself, also if you could knock up a drawing of the scope rings so I have the drawings of the full set. only thing you will have to pay for is the postage.

[newbieDAN]

Done!

[trooper554877]

Now that you have the scope collimated, when you finally get it attached to the rifle it will have to be zeroed then. All going well it won't need much but it will depend on the accuracy and workmanship of the bloke attaching the mounts to the rifle. I wouldn't let anyone locally do it but would wait to see if paul's is the real deal and maybe approach his gunsmith to do yours.
Are they high or low mounts?
Didn't the jolly green slug have a HT without a scope?
have you found any diagrams/documentation on the fitting procedures for the mounts on the HT?
the No4T's are well documented but rare to find HT doc's. I had an armourers guide e-mailed to me ages ago on another computer but thats gone, think it might have been Son or another contributor on another forum. It didn't go into the technicals of the mounting but did give the spec's on what was acceptable accuracy etc. I was quite surprised at how big the size group was allowed. Of course the rifles shot a lot better and where tuned individually but it wasn't much better than a standard rifle's expectations.
The best story of a HT being used is from Korea. Ian "robbie" Robertson, got the story in word format if interested I can e-mail.
Cheers
NED

[newbieDAN]

Hiya Ned, the scope I have is a low bracket.
The mounting of the brackets on the rifle will be the critical point as the Pattern 1918 has very limited windage adjustment, as it is only sorted by the rotation of the prism in front of the objective lens.

I've got some information on the specification of the dimensions and datum levels but nothing in the way of a diagram. I believe it's from this document ADD(S) 21-100, Rifle No1 Mklll, Sight Telescopic, Attachment - Assembly

"Datum for the alignment of the brackets is the true centreline of the bore, NOT the receiver. The centre of the transverse pin in the front mount should be 0.735" above the CL. The top flat of the rear bracket should be 1.086" above CL. There should be a distance of 4.344" between the centre of the front transverse pin and the centre of the hole for the "Bolt, locking" (locking lever)."

I can extrapolate most of the measurements I need.

Will be waiting on the Korean experience.

[fergs]

Have a word to MR Skennerton he might be able to help! or atleast know someone with the information for you. Do you know someone who has one that you could get specs off.
Regrds
Fergs

[newbieDAN]

Ive had a word with Ian, and have obtained some information, but it appears that the actual bases where produced separately outside of S.A.F. Lithgow by a firm in Melbourne. I've also got a Navy researcher passing on my info request to a guy at the aust war memorial who may know or may know somebody that might.
Who knows? But at least I'm fishing. I've been fishing and not caught anything, and sometimes the journey is just as fun without a having caught anything

[Tommo]

Dan,

If you knock me up a set of precise plans/drawings I will make you a set, as I,m after a set myself, also if you could knock up a drawing of the scope rings so I have the drawings of the full set. only thing you will have to pay for is the postage.

Hi Guys,

What was the outcome from this? I have the scope and the rifle but am drawing a blank on getting the mounts so have resolved to having a set made.

Cheers in anticipation.

Tommo.

[Son]

Hi, Dan. Sorry I didn't get into this earlier. Here's a couple of pics of the rear base and what the receiver machining looks like. I wish these bits were mine, I could send them to you to measure to your hearts content. The last pic I just threw in to show nothing is impossible... sorry if it gives anyone nightmares... took me months to recover after actually handling the rifle

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