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    Antique sword(s) appraisal/identification!

    I've got 3 different swords that my grandpa bought back when he was in the war.Im working on trying to appraise them at the moment but i feel like they are worth some money. All of them are somewhat worn but shows they have age and must be worth something. Take a look at the photos and let me know what you think - if you have an idea of the value of these swords please let me know! . Id love to know so I could put them up on Ebay. Thanks.

    The first one has some weird writing on it that I tried to get some pics of, the second one has a sun type thing on the back of the hilt and looks like a really foreign type sword, and the third looks like some kind of french rapier or something with writing that's hard to read.
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    Bump any info is appritiated!

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    The second sword is Indian. The hilt appears to be a plain arsenal grade type usually found on a tulwar (AKA talwar). However, a tulwar has a curved blade like a saber, while yours is straight. Would need better pics of the blade (including the point) to make a better ID. Scabbard, like hilt, is very plain but appears to be in good shape, which is a plus. Value can range from $150 or so on up, depending on workmanship, rarity and blade steel. Clear, sharp, straight on photos without flash would be a big help for better ID and appraisal.

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    I noticed that too after finding out it was a tulwar. Ill get some pics of the blade up

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    heres some pics of the blade

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    The first saber, with the Brass Hilt, is Russianicon Pattern Artillery, but this one is Persian Issue. The Persians (Iranians) used the Czarist Pattern Saber, some are made in Persia, some were made in Russian and sold to the Persian Army. I believe this practice ended with the Soviet Union, but during WW 2, the Russians and the US supplied arms to Persia, I do not know exactly when this one was made or where, just the ID..

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    The blade does appear from some angles to have a slight curve, but for eBay purposes you could probably call it a "tulwar-hilted firangi", which would attract additional potential buyers. The key to selling ethnographic weapons on eBay is to attract as many buyers as possible by using alternative terms for searches: "Indian, Mughal, sword, tulwar, talwar, firangi". Good measurements and plenty of clear photos are also essential to getting a good price.
    This pic took me about five minutes just now to compose, take a few different exposures, load onto the computer and edit. It's not great, but it's still better than the ones used by the seller of the "old curved sword" I bought it from for fifty bucks. With decent photos and description he could have easily tripled his money.
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    Gotcha thanks man. someone on another forum was trying to say its a "Indo-persian tulwar" which has a much straighter blade if not completely straight. then the first one being a like a russo-persian shaska and the last one i havent identified.

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    Dale,

    Welcome aboard! Looking forward to your expertise here....

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