Lyman experimental sight

[supercub]

Hi,
Long time lurker and have gained a wealth of information on the "03's. Recently my brother and I aquirred a Springfield 1903 from my step father. Typical NRA bought sporterized kind from the mid '40's, this particular gun dates around 1920 with a serial number 1215356 and a 1921 barrel.
What's odd is the Lyman sight. I found a picture of it in Brophys book on page 460, top three pictures. Not much is said other than it was tested by ordnance in 1910. The patent date on our sight is off by a couple years from the one in the picture.

I found a link to the Springfield Armory Museum that shows a rifle with the same sight but a different month date on the patent.

Springfield Armory Museum - Collection Record,

I'm wondering if anyone on the board has any knowledge of these.

Thanks

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[RCS]

My Lyman Journal 1978 shows a few rear sights that are all pre WW1 and close to the SA Armory sight photo. example being the Lyman No 36 and the No 33. The locking lever has a different type of curve but the sight itself looks very much like the armory photo

[supercub]

Here's a picture of the actual sight. An interesting thing about it is the apature has flip down peep within a peep that you can switch back and forth to depending on what you want.

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Kurt

[RCS]

I could be wrong, but I think your sight is mounted on the wrong side of the receiver.

[Cosine26]

RCS,
I think that you are incorrect. Receiver sights always mount on the right side of M1903's. The cutoff does not allow mounting on the left side. The only exception that i know of is one that used the cutoff as a mounting base.
Hope this helps

[supercub]

I'm just getting the hang of this picture loading, please bear with me..

This picture is of the sight on our rifle;

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This picture is the one in Brophy's book;


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[Michael Petrov]

The Lyman 34 was used a lot on 1903's until the Lyman 48 was introduced in 1911. I don't see these very often on a 1920 vintage rifles. I would be very interested in seeing an overall picture of the rifle or you could call me and drop by the house with it. I don't get to say that very often ;-).

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This is an early variation, one of five made for Ned Crossman, it has finer divisions and numbers.

[Michael Petrov]

Speaking of unique Lyman sights this is purported to have been made for the Argentine Navy Mauser 1909. I've never found anyone who has ever seen one of these or knows anything about it.

The sight mounts on the bolt release and swings forward out of the way so the issue sights can be used.

[supercub]

Micheal, you nailed it! Being new to some of this it really is amazing the knowledge here and the helpfullness. There's not a lot out there on some of these sights, tons on others.

I do have a nice Lyman 48 RS that I think was for a 1917 and a Remington 30? I'm wondering if it would fit in place of a Williams.

Will give you a call and get together in the near future Micheal. We had the Springfield out to the range this afternoon and shot some nice groups with it and that sight!

And thanks to all that responded.

Kurt