L42A1 and Enforcer Numbers survey

[Tim Burr]

For other ones they were able to give me some info - but - this one looks as if they had 'lost track of it'.

This rifle was one of about a dozen bought in by my gun club, Crown House Armoury in Cardiff in the late eighties or early nineties and as a penniless student I worked all summer weeding saplings in a nursery to pay for it !

[cjlewisenfield]

Hello. Excellent project.

I have L42a1 T33462 marked as a 1971 rifle which I think you are already aware of. It has scope 19459 which is a Cooke Troughton and Simms one.

I have Enforcer 228 marked as 1973 and it came with Pecar scope 97642 on RAHS4 rings though it was actualy a 1 inch tube. This scope on my rifle only went out to about 700yards. I think most of us know of the inherent failing in the Parker Hale mounts and rings. Failing is probably not correct as the the equipment did what it was designed to do. It was never meant to be a 1000 yard rig. Fortunate in having other pecar scopes and reticule inserts I found a pecar scope that would go out to a 1000 on the original mounts and without shimming. I have since sold of my 2 spare pecars and unfortunately 97642 was one of the spares. My comfort is that I do not believe that it was the matching scope for 228 and also that it has gone to a nice chap in Canada who has a few Enforcers and who in our communications increased my knowledge of the genre. Additionaly Enforcer 228 had magazine no 367 on it when I bought it. I very recently found out that one of my regular shooting colleagues has rifle no 367. Over the last 5 years or so we have both been at the range with neither of us realising. His No 367 and mine No 228 are both ex Derbyshire. Rifle and magazine are now reunited. If anyone out there has magazine No 228 I would be very interested.

Regards

Chris...

[Peter Laidler]

I don't know about Enforcers but L42 magazines were only to be numbered when they were subject to hand or selective fitting. Otherwise, unnumbered if you or anyone out there ever wondered why some were and some weren't. I haven't ever seen it in writing for the L39 but assume that the same applies although they only came from Ordnance with the standard No4 magazine - Oh yes they did!

[Alan de Enfield]

...I have Enforcer 228 marked as 1973 ..................
......... I very recently found out that one of my regular shooting colleagues has rifle no 367. Regards

Chris...

A couple of interesting rifles there -

228 was actually issued to Glasgow Police on 8th May 1974 - it was returned to Enfield some years later (maybe for an FTR ?) and was subsequently 're-issued' to Derbyshire Police on 19th Jan 1981

367 is shown in the Enfield Sales Ledger as being "For Collection" with no Police Force name shown but it is shown on the same Inspection Note number as other Derby Police Enforcers so the assumption is that it was indeed a Derbyshire Force rifle. It was collected on 14th September 1974

Hope that helps

[FlightRN]

Greetings All,
I realized that I forgot mention that my L42A1 was converted in 1971 and based on a 1944 Shirley (M47C) No4 (T). I also noticed that my magazine is stamped with a serial number (not matching the rifle). Does anyone have infomation on rifle T33468?

Merry Christmas to All!

Michael

[XL39E1]

See post 12 about Rifle T33468! Im convinced he has 33468 abd no 33462!

[cjlewisenfield]

My apology my rifle is indeed T33468 and not T33462

See post 12 about Rifle T33468! Im convinced he has 33468 abd no 33462!

[muffett.2008]

Yeah, if you want info, try the fellow that owns T33468, I'm sure he's here.

[cjlewisenfield]

Greetings All,
I realized that I forgot mention that my L42A1 was converted in 1971 and based on a 1944 Shirley (M47C) No4 (T). I also noticed that my magazine is stamped with a serial number (not matching the rifle). Does anyone have infomation on rifle T33468?

Merry Christmas to All!

Michael

Hi I 've just read this post properly I have T33468 purchased from Fultons, Bisley in 2001. Currently I am on a smart phone but will try contacting you when I am in front of my computer.

Regards

[Longshaor]

Probably an odd question, but does anyone know what the final L42 (as in last one converted) serial was?