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Markings on Sporterized N1 Mk3*
A friend gave me this one about 20 years ago. Curious as to the markings. It has been sprorterized but will not remain so. Other than some missing wood and nose piece, I believe it is mostly all there. Barrel is in great shape. Headspace checks out. Sorrry, thought I had pics of the whole rifle on my computer, but must have deleted them.Attachment 29845Attachment 29844Attachment 29846Attachment 29847Attachment 29848Attachment 29849Attachment 29850Attachment 29851
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01-16-2012 10:16 PM
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Me thinks the stamps are somewhat overdone.
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That's not a rifle - it's a stamp collection!
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What's really amazing is that the barrel seems to be of the same vintage as the body. Must have "been around the block" once or twice, though.
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The marks on the right of the knox form are English Proof (London) marks.
Last edited by Beerhunter; 01-17-2012 at 11:14 AM.
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Well, you have a 'Peddle Scheme' there. Look to the left of the rear of the bolt. Is it marked SSA or NRF?
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Anzac, It's marked SSA. And here I thought I had found all the marks. You guys amaze me. What does SSA stand for? And what is Peddle Scheme exactly. I remember seeing that before, but don't recall the details. What mark told you it was peddle scheme? Thank you.
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ShooterNurse :
Standard Small Arms was formed by Mr S J Waring (later Lord Waring, 1860-1940) of the Waring & Gillow concern ,together with a Mr Peterson, who was a man of standing in the Birmingham gun trade. They believed that the skills of the Birmingham gun trade were being neglected and could be more fully utilised in the war effort than they were. They planned to make all of the action and the nosecap, less magazines, screws and pins, and organise eight small firms and a number of individuals in the trade (probably outworkers, of whom a great many worked in the trade at that time). The barrels were to be subcontracted to Westley Richards and the wood to be cut by Waring & Gillow and Rudders & Payne (both these firms eventually dropped out). They contracted to supply rifles at 75/- each, which was the same price that BSA was paid. After a year or so it became apparent that the factory would never produce complete arms and it was instructed to produce four items; body with charger guide, bolt, bolt head and trigger guard. The company was to produce 1500 sets of components a week, rising to 4,000 when new machinery was installed. Other firms were contracted to produce less specialist items, the sets of components being delivered to Enfield for assembly in the bayonet shop, production of which was shifted to Wilkinsons and Sanderson Brothers & Newbold.
The downside of this scheme was that it only allowed for the exact number of components needed. Thus assembly of rifles was held up for want of quite minor items which inexperienced firms were struggling to produce. The scheme was revised in 1916 and became known as the Rifle Components Pool, taking every component which the 'Big Three' could make in excess of their complete rifle production as well as all that Standard Small Arms could turn out, and those produced by the 'peddled scheme' firms. Ordnance could also draw on the pool for repair parts. A considerable stock of components was built up so that any of the Big Three could draw on it if short of some item, and this was done continuously by LSA, and occasionally by BSA, and by Enfield (the pool being on the spot). Standard Small Arms did not attain an output of 2,000 bodies a week until April 1917 and two years after the start of work only 5-6,000 had been produced. By this time SSA were in financial difficulties and a government loan had to be made to keep them going. On June 1st 1918 the factory became National Rifle Factory No.1 with Mr Peterson as superintendent and instructed to prepare for manufacture of components of the Farquhar-Hill automatic rifle, although NRF-marked SMLE bodies were made after this. SSA seem to have turned out 2,000-4,000 bodies a week, depending on the Ministry of Munitions' requirements at the time.
Mine are not the best, but they are not too bad. I can think of lots of Enfields I'd rather have but instead of constantly striving for more, sometimes it's good to be satisfied with what one has...
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ShooterNurse,
Well, Alan deEnfield beat me to it. And he did it well! Excellent history there, Alan.
To answer your question as to what identifies it as a Peddle Scheme, the answer lies at the buttsocket. It will only be marked GR, the year of manufacture, and ShtLE III*. I have two at the moment, an all matching and original 1918 SSA, and a 1917 SSA rebarreled in 1937 and issued to Fianna Fail, or the Irish Free State Army. Am always on the lookout for that somewhat elusive NRF rifle!
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