No. 4 Mk.II "Sniper"

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For your amusement check out this "sniper rifle":
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[XL39E1]

Oh dear!

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Translation of the description:

for auction a sniper rifle enfield no. 4 mk.2 (F). the rifle is mint (mirror bright bore and nearly new wood) not a single scratch or dent on the rifle. with the sniper rifles you can take off the complete front stock (handguard and lower wood) and set back the front ring so that the barrel can cool off faster. the scope is matching numbers and built in 1943. the adjustment works perfectly (heigh and side adjustment with a scale), compensation scale from 100-1000 meters (or yards), the optics are bright but the edge definition is not the best (but I've once read that the English were not famous for that, so it could have been that this was original). additional there's the metal can where the scope is placed (i do not have any picture for that) and the rifle comes with a bayonet (also unfortunately not shown on the pictures). TOP RIFLE won't be offered that much any more in a absolutely mint condition. ORIGINAL!!!! the rifle can also be deactivated/turned into a salute rifle. +40 Euros sale outside Austria 56 Euro for the permission. private auction so no warranty. by request additional pictures available. tel [XXXX] Austria. the shipping costs in the auction refer to shipping to Germany.

[limpetmine]

Ugh. I just threw up a little.

[ickmann]

Guaranteed to be spotted 8 miles away, the ultimate in stealth.

I bet whoever it was, took that scope to a bench mounted wirewheel. Oh the horror.

[Patrick Chadwick]

OK you experts, please explain to me just what gives it away. Not being an expert on these things, I can see a scope mounting that is numbered to the rifle, and a scope that seems a bit old for the rifle. Otherwise, I don't see what there is to laugh about, so please enlighten me!


Patrick

[XL39E1]

Its a No4 Mk2 trying to be an "ORIGINAL" no4 Mk2 T! its just wrong! They do not exist!

[Roger Payne]

Patrick,
I think the most obvious thing is that the rifle is a Mk2 of post-War manufacture. The wartime contracts did run over a little, into 1946, & the Indians did re-work & redate some No4T's in the early 1960's but with those minor exceptions no No4 T's were produced post WW2. The rifle has a six digit serial number; so far as we know no Faz rifles were converted to T's; the pad screws are bright steel; some tyro has engraved a 'T' on the bracket for good measure.......etc.....etc.

But the scope & bracket are real! The scope is eminently restorable; strip & either reblue or blast/phos/suncorite - then reassemble. I don't generally like refinishing but sometimes a piece of kit looks such a mess that I feel a sympathetic refinish can only improve it.....!

[Richard in NY]

...The wartime contracts did run over a little, into 1946, & the Indians did re-work & redate some No4T's in the early 1960's but with those minor exceptions no No4 T's were produced post WW2.

Here are a few photos of Indian re-arsenaled No4 Mk 1/2 sniper.






Please note that the markings are copied and Photoshopped into the shots to highlight the difficult to see and read markings. The rifle serial number appears on the scope mount but, as you can see, was obscured in the photo. The matching scope number appears on the wrist. The complete rig is in essentially "new" re-arsenaled condition.

I have seen several incomplete Indian snipers, but this is the only complete unit I have ever seen. Gentlemen, your thoughts and observations are welcome.

[paulseamus]

That poor little scope. How can someone inflict such indignitely on a 69 year old girl?

At least the scope tube is not showing any signs of external rust, but I wonder how long that will last.

Paul