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    Presentation walking stick

    Now, here's an interesting piece of militaria. How it got here, I've no idea, but perhaps one of our southern neighbours may know. It's definitely of more interest to our American cousins.
    I have come into possession of a walking stick, or maybe a swagger stick. It's too heavy for a Britishicon pattern officers swagger stick, but I'm frankly unfamiliar with the U.S. accepted patterns of senior NCO accoutrements. The pics give a good idea of what you're looking at, and I'll provide a verbatim transcript of the inscription. I have no idea what kind of wood this is, but under the rubber tip is a horn tip original to the piece. The knob is hallmarked sterling silver. The inscription reads:
    R.M.S. F.R. GULLAND
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    The Sergts 5th C.L.V.R. (N.G.)
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    TADWORTH CAMP
    1918
    I'm assuming it's for a Regimental Sergeant Major F.R. Gulland of the 5th Cavalry (National Guard)? If anyone knows more, or correctly, please chime in. I'd love any information anyone could provide regarding provenance, possible value, etc. Thanks in advance to you all.

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    This is a Senior NCOs drill cane. At the time they looked much like a gentleman's walking stick. We still have them at the Canadianicon Scottish Regiment in Victoria in the stores. It's not an American item. I think it's an English regt. Certainly not Natl. Guard. Swagger sticks are much smaller.
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    Jim, thank you for the input. Most commonweath units with which I'm familiar would have used a regimental name (7/11 Hussars, Governor General's Horse Guards, etc.), hence my feeling that it's American as they tend much more to numerical designations for their military units. I could be wrong. As to the unit, 5th C.L.V.R., something or other Volunteer Regiment perhaps? What would the N.G. in brackets stand for? It's a head-scratcher.

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    VR would be Volunteer Rifles. I'd love to see a close up detail of the inscription.
    Regards, Jim

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    New information......Tadworth camp was in Surrey, Englandicon, and was on the property of the Epsom Downs racecourse. It was used by the British as well as the Canadianicon troops during WW1. Oh, and Jim, take note. The inscription is exactly as written in my original posting, captials and punctuation included, so unless you're coming to Toronto in the near future, you'll have to trust me in ths regard. If you can find out anything further from that information, I'd love to hear about it.

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    I'm actually going to be in Cornwall Thursday but no matter. Purely interest...I was certain Tadworth would be an English camp and I know our sticks date back a ways so this one's old too. I'll keep my ear to the ground, I may be able to find out something.
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    I suspect the unit in question is 5th Bn. City of London Volunteer Rifle Brigade.

    Tadworth Camp circa 1914-18 was at Epson.
    Last edited by Paul S.; 02-06-2012 at 01:40 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul S. View Post
    I suspect the unit in question is 5th Bn. City of London Volunteer Rifle Brigade.

    Tadworth Camp circa 1914-18 was at Epson.
    I've found a link in a Britishicon forum, and you are correct Sir. It was indeed the 5th. City of London Volunteer Regiment (National Guard). Any idea as to value?

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