True Butt Stock Ammo Pouch?

[2AD_Vet]

Hi Folks,

I just recently read on a internet wiki that due to the common practice of the GIs using the belt mount style M1 carbine ammo pouches as butt stock slip on pouches, the Army actually made a true Butt Stock pouch that was made to fit the M1 Carbin stock and issued it during the war.

I have never seen anything but the common belt mount style (has the brass snap in the back, and is a tight fit over the butt)

Is this other pouch a reality or just an urban legend? does someone have a picture of one? Where would you get one?

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[Bruce McAskill]

It never happened. The pouch on the butt was USGI ingenuity and never one accepted as standard by the military so no special pouches were made.

[JimF4M1s (Deceased)]

Someone is probably making current version and trying to push it as real.

[browningautorifle]

That's exactly it. They're made today and they don't even look remotely correct. The ones you spoke of originally are the only ones the men used.

[USGI]

Hi Folks,

I just recently read on a internet wiki that due to the common practice of the GIs using the belt mount style M1 carbine ammo pouches as butt stock slip on pouches, the Army actually made a true Butt Stock pouch that was made to fit the M1 Carbin stock and issued it during the war.

I have never seen anything but the common belt mount style (has the brass snap in the back, and is a tight fit over the butt)

Is this other pouch a reality or just an urban legend? does someone have a picture of one? Where would you get one?

I read that Wikipedia info about M1 Carbines the other day, too. I saw that same info about the pouches, and wondered - I'm glad that question has been answered. I did bookmark the address of the article, and found lots of good information as well as links to other carbine articles and sites. Some of you might want to take a look. They show a lot of legitimate references, but not sure if there was a direct reference for that stock pouch information. My opinion on the information presented there was more positive than negative. Here's the link if anyone wants to take a closer look. - Bob

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1_carbine

[JimF4M1s (Deceased)]

This was in that write up also. Hummm......

"After the introduction of the 30-round magazine, it was common for the troops to tape two 30-round magazines together. This led the military to introduce the "Jungle Clip", which was a metal clamp that would hold two magazines together without the need of tape."

[imarangemaster]

Wikipedia, while a reasonable "quick reference" , is full of errors. A History teacher I worked with created a fictional battle, entered it into Wikipedia, then had the students research it without telling them it never really happened. The point he made to the students was "don't trust wikipedia without backup resources"

[Bruce McAskill]

Jim as you know the US military never used or made the so called jungle clips but so many think they did.

[JimF4M1s (Deceased)]

Bruce,

That was my Hummm.... point.

I didn't see anything like that when I was in Viet Nam either. The last "War" the US used the Carbine.

[Bill Ricca]

This led the military to introduce the "Jungle Clip", which was a metal clamp that would hold two magazines together without the need of tape." ]

Another funny thing about the non existing Jungle Clip is the early ones were not marked. Later on somebody, with no knowledge, put on markings that included a part number. The part number was in the Military Vehicle Range, not small arms.

I am glad many of them are dumb when it comes to contracts and part numbers.