Ross Prices

[sledge]

Can anyone provide a range of pricing on Ross 1910 rifles in Canada with respect to condition, original parts, and wether home guard, British use, Canadian unit markings, etc?
I see that Bubba'd sporters run for a few hundred, but some people are now asking a thousand and more for full military wood Ross 1910s. C + R buds has valuation of Ross 1910s at;
100-185 Poor 175-295 Fair 290-425 Good 400-570 Very Good 525-725 Excelent 675-900 Unissued.
But I suspect those prices are a tad dated, and it being an American site the value of a Ross is more in Canada.
Thanks,

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[buffdog]

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What do they value 1905 Ross Rifles at? Particularly the ones that went to the USA.

As you might surmise, location is a factor. Number 4 Savage Rifles in the USA bring more than Long Branch ones, but the prices in Canada are just the opposite. As the Americans never used the 1910 Ross rifle, I would suspect that the interest in them in the States is very low while interest in Canada is reflected by the selling price of them here.
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[smellie]

I paid $35 for a chopped (post-War-2 British sportered ex-RMLI) marked to RMLI PLYmouth. That was several years ago.

Last 1910 sportered Ross (from the same batch) I paid $90, about 5 years ago.

I do have one of the rifles which came back from Chile and has DA markings. It is full military, absolutely original, has 16th Batt markings and a serial which indicates that it is from the pilot run, likely an actual 1912 rifle. It is utterly, wickedly accurate and is MUCH too much fun to shoot. I turned down $1000 for it, last year.

There was a 1910 on a board last month for $980. It had been heavily (disastrously) sanded, all original numbers gone although an RMLI rifle from Crombie.

Right now, a decent, unrestored, unBubba'd 1910 Ross in good working order and a decent bore seems to be running about $1000.

Considering that only 300,000 were built and most of them went to Russia one way or another, that's a fair price for something 98 years old.

Considering that a decent Garand is running $1600......... and there were 6,000,000 built, the Ross is a steal!

British Mark IIIB I can't say for; there don't seem to be ANY available.

It's STILL the nicest thing you EVER took onto a rifle range!
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[boltaction]

Full wood original M1910's seem to be between 800 and 1200, depending on their condition. I've seen really nice 1914 issue dated ones going for 1400, which isn't unreasonable either given how few of those there would be now. Bubba's seem to be in the 150-250 range, depending again on condition--if it's one of the Gov't bubbas for Parks or Rangers, it may be in the higher range, and also if it has an uncut barrel and still the front sight hood and middle band it will be in the 250 range. Not unreasonable considering that a replacement mag unit will run you 100, front sight hood (if you can find one) about 25, middle band maybe 50.......... 1905 Rosses are more unpredictable, as there are SO MANY models. The Mk II*** are probably the commonest, and seem to be in the 600-800 range if in nice shape. The Mk II** targets are easily 1500-2000 now, especially if they have military markings on them. Mk II with Mk III rearsights just aren't really to be had much. As for the Mk IIIB, I picked one up at auction a few months ago for 700, but it was not advertised as a Mk IIIB. I think that when you see them, they are more expensive, but one just doesn't see them.

I remember when I was first collecting Rosses in the 1980's, a gorgeous Mk II** with fancy target sights was 450-500. Nobody looked much at the 1910 Mk IIIs, but they could be had for about 250-300. Things have changed! Not a bad thing, either. It's nice to see folks appreciating our own history for a change. As Smellie says, when you consider that a Franken-Garand can fetch $1200-1500, and a supposedly "original" Garand (like there's such a thing with all the rebuilds they went through) over 2000, the Rosses are pretty reasonable.

Ed

[RangeRover]

The prices quoted here pretty much match what I've seen. A Mk II 5* with an MLE rear sight on it, rather than the Sutherland, listed for $800 (if I recall correctly), sold almost immediately within the past week on a board here in Canada. And a dealer had a '15-dated Mk III posted on his site for $1300 which disappeared fairly quickly.

As we are in the midst of the 100th anniversary of the years that the Ross stormed Bisley and nearing the anniversary of the start of the Great War, my guess is that prices will begin to pick up. I'm glad I've got an example of a Mk II and a Mk III as I certainly can't afford any more.

[Homer2]

I found one in a local pawn shop that usually doesn't know what's what. They don't have it priced yet, so I'm hoping to get it for a good price before they do much research.

It is about the best Ross I've seen. Perfect wood with 1907 on the butt stock. Smooth as butter bolt. I have to wait until Tuesday to talk to the gun guy, and the shop has a 30 day hold until they sell.

[John Sukey (Deceased)]

An original Ross is a high dollar item, BUT once bubba decides to make a 'valable sportin rifle outta it" The price drops like a lead brick.
While some were made by the factory as sporting rifles, they are few and far between.