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    He made a big song and dance about not being able to keep the P'14, what makes you think he kept the Canadianicon rifle surpmil? Yes..... ROC.... please elaborate............
    'Umble 'ologies! I forgot the "Army" bit in a hurry! Though what they really need it for I don't know. They didn't call it the Royal Army Armoured Corps or the Royal Army Machine Gun Corps. Oh, yes, I know: the RAF and the RN have ordnance too...
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    You do go around the houses to answer a simple question Rob! Are you saying the ROC indicates Royal Army Ordnance Corps? To be honest, the blanket stackers, as we know them, are not famous or even well-known for their sniping or sniping instructors. I'm not sure that there are many of them that could even write a book! Said in jest of course........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Surpmil View Post
    'Umble 'ologies! I forgot the "Army" bit in a hurry! Though what they really need it for I don't know. They didn't call it the Royal Army Armoured Corps or the Royal Army Machine Gun Corps. Oh, yes, I know: the RAF and the RN have ordnance too...
    The RAOC were, at one time the Army Ordnance Corps, until they "earned" the Royal.

    The Royal Armoured Corps "inherited their "Royal" from the the Royal Tank Corps.

    So there is method in the apparent madness.

    The Machine Gun Corps never had a Royal - nor an "Army" for that matter.
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    You're confusing me now Beery........... Are you saying that the RAOC were once the Royal Ordnance Corps?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Laidlericon View Post
    Are you saying that the RAOC were once the Royal Ordnance Corps?
    No. It was simply the Army Ordnance Corps until, if memory serves, 1919 when the honour 'Royal' was conferred by the King. Similarly, the same honour was conferred upon the Army Service Corp, and numerous other Britishicon and 'Imperial' Corps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Laidlericon View Post
    You're confusing me now Beery........... Are you saying that the RAOC were once the Royal Ordnance Corps?
    No. They were the Army Ordnance Corps then, on gaining their "Royal", they became the Royal Army Ordnance Corps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Laidlericon View Post
    You do go around the houses to answer a simple question Rob! Are you saying the ROC indicates Royal Army Ordnance Corps? To be honest, the blanket stackers, as we know them, are not famous or even well-known for their sniping or sniping instructors. I'm not sure that there are many of them that could even write a book! Said in jest of course........
    Was just trying to inject a little humour Peter!

    I thought "Royal Observer Corps" must have been a leg-pull, as we all know I think that Royal Army Ordnance Corps is RAOC.

    Even I know that; though I did forget in that posting.

    Dates: 1918 -

    RAOC - Military Genealogy

    RAOC formed by the amalgamation of Army Ordanance Corps and the Army Ordnance Department.


    There, I learned something today.
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