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    If you right click on your photos OP, you'll find a neat little feature called "Rotate Clockwise" and "Rotate Counterclockwise".

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    If if was mine I would have those Injan defacements erased with a TIG welder. Better nothing than that rubbish. I know that's not historically correct, but it annoys me just to look at them. What a typical imbecility to erase Britishicon markings and replace them with that.
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    Or, instead of tig-ing them out and altering(?) the structure of the steel just mill them out with an oval and re-engrave 'No4 Mk1 T' in a font size that fits in the oval, followed by FTR RFI 6-50 (or whatever date is shown elsewhere). You ain't hiding nothing, defrauding noone in the future but just tidying up someones crap workmanship. The rifle is what it is. A hardeworking well used example of an ex Indian Army sniper rifle

    If you tig over it, you will NEVER be able to hide the changed structure of the steel. Just mt 2c's worth

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Laidlericon View Post
    Or, instead of tig-ing them out and altering(?) the structure of the steel just mill them out with an oval and re-engrave 'No4 Mk1 T' in a font size that fits in the oval, followed by FTR RFI 6-50 (or whatever date is shown elsewhere). You ain't hiding nothing, defrauding noone in the future but just tidying up someones crap workmanship. The rifle is what it is. A hardeworking well used example of an ex Indian Army sniper rifle

    If you tig over it, you will NEVER be able to hide the changed structure of the steel. Just mt 2c's worth
    True. I had a full refinish in mind as well: phosphate and paint, but that's not the done thing anymore is it? Getting rid of the Ishy screw would be the last step in erasing its curry content entirely.
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    Mind you although the markings after it left Britishicon Army service are somewhat hamfisted, for me they represent an interesting part of the rifle's history.

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    I'll be leaving mine as they are. "They are what they are"....
    An interesting aside to the Indian snipers. I have the scope that is matching to an Indian issue rifle in a collection overseas. I was in contact with the owner and offered to trade the matching scope for another scope comparable to the one I have to complete up his rifle and never heard back from him. I've matched up one other scope to one of my rifles, and that was a bit of luck. It does happen !!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warren View Post
    I have the scope that is matching to an Indian issue rifle in a collection overseas. I was in contact with the owner and offered to trade the matching scope for another scope comparable to the one I have to complete up his rifle and never heard back from him.
    "Inconceivable!" Perhaps he plummeted to his doom from the Cliffs of Insanity.

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    My Indian has everything scrubbed and relocated to the right side and receiver ring. I bought it for the scope but it is just another path in the bigger story. I should get some better photos.



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    That's pretty Jack! How does it shoot now it's got the trigger hung on the body & has been re-stocked??

    I've had a few ex-Indian rifles & refurbed & then sold most of them, but I have kept two Mk1's - I've not restored them but I selected them because they have NOT had the crudely hand-stamped designation markings reapplied to the receiver side wall. In other words, apart from the paint job (on one of them) & the 'Ishy' screw (both), they are still in standard UKicon issue trim. One of them is virtually like the day it left H&H in 1944 & must have been hanging on the wall in some Indian officer's mess somewhere 'coz it definitely wouldn't look like it does any more if they'd issued it!! The other is a well-loved BSA 1943 with a 'small T' on the receiver, that I've previously mentioned...... I treasure both of them.

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    Roger I can't fairly say as I only put twenty or less rounds through it to confirm scope to bore picture years ago. It was very close. I then gave it to a friend with zero shooting background and this is his first 100 yard target. It's only been back in my hands for a year now and I have not had time to re-stock it with a screwed stock i found.

    MJ, don't take this personally, but that's crap.
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    Well she looks a beaut anyway.....

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