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    1917 Schilling Suhl Gew 98/k98??

    Am considering bidding on a 1917 Schilling Suhl Gew 98 rifle. Thing is, it appears to have been 'converted' to a k98 configuration. In fact, you would mistake this for an outright k98, except for the straight bolt and Lange Vizier rear sight. Supposedly an all matching rifle, no force matching. I wouldnt have given it a second look, except for the fact that the piece looks legit. But you know photos.. Oh, and no import mark. I would appreciate any thoughts on this, as it seems to be a pretty unusual rifle. If there's a possibility that it is a legit conversion, I may bid on it. Thanks much!
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    Something not sounding right. The S/42G conversions included the rear sight replacement. More questions then answers.

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    If the rifle has the original Lange rearsight, it isn't a Gew98/98k conversion. For a Gew.98 to be a Kar98kicon conversion it would have to actually be a Kar98k, that means either a shortened barrel (or new ordnance spare), a stock either altered to 98k configuration or an ordnance spare replacement (the stock would have to have a side sling arrangement and bolt cutout) and generally these rifles will look like a Kar98k in every way, including a rearsight upgraded to sS patrone.

    The true "conversions" where the depot shortened a Gew.98 and altered the stock are very rare, and I mean very rare, not scarce or uncommon like many apply the term. Most Gew98/98k conversions are not conversions at all, they are recycled or salvaged Gew.98 receivers rebuilt as a Kar98k by a depot. Receivers were a critical bottleneck part and were often reutilized, both old Imperial era receivers and captured or occupied countries Modell98 actions were used by the depots to build 98k rifles during 1941-1942.


    Quote Originally Posted by Anzac15 View Post
    Am considering bidding on a 1917 Schilling Suhl Gew 98 rifle. Thing is, it appears to have been 'converted' to a k98 configuration. In fact, you would mistake this for an outright k98, except for the straight bolt and Lange Vizier rear sight. Supposedly an all matching rifle, no force matching. I wouldnt have given it a second look, except for the fact that the piece looks legit. But you know photos.. Oh, and no import mark. I would appreciate any thoughts on this, as it seems to be a pretty unusual rifle. If there's a possibility that it is a legit conversion, I may bid on it. Thanks much!

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    Anzac15, as the previous post illustrates, we really need photos to be sure of what you are talking about.

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    Patrick, I let this one slide by. It just seemed too 'made up', and it probably was. Simson pretty much confirmed what my suspicions were!

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