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    1941 garand questions

    Hello:
    Just purchased this 1941 vintage garand, made in may-June of 1941.
    I noticed that the gas tube assembly is of the different color than the rest of the gun.
    Also, attached is the picture of the rear sight.
    can someone comment on these parts being correct or incorrect for this vintage rifle?
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    That is pretty normal for the M1icon. The gas cylinder is made from stainless and doesn't hold color like the cast and forged steel does. Your gas cylinder is a narrow sight base type and is correct for your 1941 M1. The sight is a flush nut and also correct for your M1.

    Your rifle looks very nice! Can you give us a detailed parts breakdown and serial number of your rifle?
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    Thank you!
    I should be able to provide the serial number and the drawing numbers for small parts in a few days.

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    I second Bill's opinion and request for pics. I have one that's probably about the same era and numbers close.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Hollinger View Post
    Your rifle looks very nice! Can you give us a detailed parts breakdown and serial number of your rifle?
    ditto on bills quote,i to have a 1941 only december,an a lend lease.

    by the way bill i realy enjoy your story about the willys,[not the smash up part]

    i had a 53 civilan.
    pics of the 41garand






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    Attachment 34831Attachment 34833Attachment 34834Attachment 34832Thank you for your input, fellows...
    The serial number is 248291.
    Barrel is made in June of 1941 and is so dated.
    The stock had been varnished with only the circled P proof mark remaining.
    The rest of the stock cartouches is gone.
    Providing all the small parts have the correct drawing numbers and the metal finish is excellent and original - what would be the approximate value of this rifle?
    If some of the small parts are incorrect - how much would it detract from the value?
    Is $1600 too much, too little or just right?
    Here are some more pics..
    Thanks!
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    seems kind of high to me.

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    It's not a gas "tube," it's a gas CYLINDER. FWIW, the gas cylinder lock screw is not a "gas plug," either.
    Real men measure once and cut.

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    I don't have an accurate feel for the market anymore because of so many CMPicon Garands being sold lately but $1600 seems high to me too. The barrel/receiver match and WWII provenance are helpful. If you somehow knew this rifle was a 1-owner gun for many years ther would be a better chance that someone didn't put it together from correct parts. The important thing to know is that ALL WWII Garands were rebuilt after the War so if it's absolutely correct, someone made it that way to increase the value. Anyway, still nice to have a correct WWII Garandicon. It looks very nice FWIW...

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    I don't agree that ALL M1s were rebuilt after the war and if it's absolutely correct someone made it that way. There are more than a few that didn't see an arsenal rebuild and are original. Granted, they are few and far between, still they are out there. I am not saying this rifle is original. A careful study of the rifle by someone more versed with them would be needed to determine that.
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