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    In Chicago, all National Guard units sent their M1icon rifles to Riverside (National Guard Ordnance Unit) for a new barrel. In the armory, all rifles had to have the gas cylinder screw with valve to launch grenades etc, all slings were web. All or most rifles had lock bar sights and spare parts to complete additional lock bar sights, only on the M1D rifles were the later knobs found. Wood was supplied by Riverside. The flush nut or spanner nut was found on imports such as Lend Lease or other imports, veteran bring backs or restorations.
    I would guess that before the Korean War the flush nuts were all replaced in most US services rifles. Never heard of a DCM purchase with a flush nut - but it might have happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RCS View Post
    In Chicago, all National Guard units sent their M1icon rifles to Riverside (National Guard Ordnance Unit) for a new barrel. In the armory, all rifles had to have the gas cylinder screw with valve to launch grenades etc, all slings were web. All or most rifles had lock bar sights and spare parts to complete additional lock bar sights, only on the M1D rifles were the later knobs found.
    Thanks Robert, I had always just thought that unserviceable N.G. rifles would have been sent back to the Army arsenals. In the marine Corps the single slot lock screw was not an issue until we were issued the M5 bayonets as they would not mount on a rifle with the single slot screw.
    Most Marines unless in an infantry unit never fired a rifle grenade but if they did then the screw would be changed. The web sling was issued with the rifle in boot camp and only a few old timers still held on to there leather slings. The web sling can be seen at the bottom of the pile.


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    That looks more like the pants belt. I'm wearing one right now...
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    As Billy Pyle stated " the lock bar never left the system"

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    All that webbing looks like a pack. My guess on this photo is the Marines are getting equipment issued to them or inspected.
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    It looks like initial issue of field kit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Hollinger View Post
    All that webbing looks like a pack. My guess on this photo is the Marines are getting equipment issued to them or inspected.
    It is what was called "782 gear", Marine term for field gear. It was with this issue that the rifle sling was issued. I was looking at the very bottom belt or sling i the picture, the one with the metal tip, but I might be wrong. As the sling was not issued with the rifle this was the only picture I had that I thought, might show the web sling. This picture is from the early 1950's based on the utility jackets and the EGA emblem on the covers. The picture below is of rifle issue to Marine recruits in a about 1955. Notice the different utility jackets, no, what was called "granade pockets", in later jackets. Doubt they were ever used for "granades, but that is what they were called.

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    That Marine looks just like my son Jeff! Must be the look they issue a Marine!

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    Where is that picture taken Bill? Parris Is or San Diego?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Hollinger View Post
    No, as I stated in my first post, the flush nut is correct for this rifle.

    Aaaah, I guess I didn't understand what "flush nut" meant. I thought you were talking about the gas nut. Oooops. Thank you.

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