M91 bayonet

[Paulie Lugnuts]

We have a M91 Cav. Carb. The bolt, screw?, that holds the swing out bayonet to the barrel is missing. Anyone know where I can find one?

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[jmoore]

Try Springfield Sporters or Numrich. Some of the other forumers know of a couple of other sources, maybe they'll chime in.

But the real drama is that there's at least nine variations of bayonet attaching hardware for the folding bayonet models!

[Airman Skitters]

So, this is a bit weird, but I'm Paulie's son and I thought I'd register on here to get to the bottom of another Carcano related quest... but, since I spotted this thread I'll add a bit more information in hopes of finding the parts we need for our Cav Carbine.

It's a 91/38 Cavalry Carbine in 6.5, it's missing the screw, spring and little button thingy that allows the spike bayonet to fold out and in... was missing when we bought it, though it did have the bayonet itself that we still have. It's also missing the top handguard. Those seem to be pretty tough to come by as well, so I figured we could just cut down one of the NOS M38 Handguards Liberty Tree Collectors has up on their site. I'm thinking it'll fit well enough, it's got the cut out for the simple V-notch rear sight and all.

Here's a picture of the carbine in question with our two other Carcanos:

[muffett.2008]

Can't help with the part, but love the pic, your collection is just like my trio.
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[Paulie Lugnuts]

I see your long rifle has 2 rear sling loops. Ours only came with the lower one, which is missing. Ours also has an unusual curved buttstock and plate, not sure why.

[jmoore]

Ours also has an unusual curved buttstock and plate, not sure why.

Probably a very early rifle.

The upside for your bayonet screw is that the M38 carbine doesn't have the wide range of possiblities that the earlier versions do. Where to find one? That's another drama.

[Paulie Lugnuts]

Could be an early one, haven't found a date on it anywhere. As far as the bayonet bolt(?), we may have to borrow one and have a copy made. Anyone have a loaner?

[gew8805]

I see your long rifle has 2 rear sling loops. Ours only came with the lower one, which is missing. Ours also has an unusual curved buttstock and plate, not sure why.

Your long rifle is not a Carcano, it is a Vetterli M1870/87/15. It was originally the Italian M1870, a single shot rifle of 10.35×47mmR caliber. Then, in 1887 it was converted to a repeater of the same caliber and after that in 1915, with the emergency of WW1, it was converted to Italian 6.5mm caliber with a new magazine and a lined bore in the new caliber.

They are not recommended for shooting due to the minimal locking lugs on the primitive bolt and the ability of the barrel liner to come loose. Even in WW1, they were issued only to rear echelon troops who were rarely expected to fire their weapons but might need to when an emergency came up.

[jmoore]

Your long rifle is not a Carcano, it is a Vetterli M1870/87/15.

If it's like the one in the photo above then it's for dang sure not a Vetterli!

[gew8805]

If it's like the one in the photo above then it's for dang sure not a Vetterli!

Well, dang..... jmoore, thank you for straightening out my dis-informative post, my apologies to all. Yes, it is a Carcano with what appears to be a modified butt. I was in a hurry (apparently to hear myself talk ) and should have at least glanced at the bolt and rear sight. As Roseanne Rosanadana said "Never mind".