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    Bisley NO4 MK1 1942

    How was the bisley rifles made? in the same line as the combat rifles? The flowing is stamped on it. under the barrel on the wood
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    61 or 64

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    at the grip
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    66

    and 2 hall marks the but on the stock is numberd 680.





    I would really appreciate any information.

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    Are you asking about the 1942 LongBranch that's in your photobucket account? Is it still 303? The LB/60 or ? number is the Long Branch Inspectors mark on the wood. Will be at tip of forend and under the wrist of the butt. It's most likely "LB/66". The sight is a Parker Hale 5c which was a premiun target sight when rifle was set up for target shooting. The only other thing I see changed is a screw put through the forend tie plate...sometimes done when rifle accurrized. Need a little more info to tell you more. Ron (Canadaicon)
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    It is still .303 and as far as my knowledge goes never used as a Bisley rifle. It was used as a hunting rifle a few of times. It has a 5 groove barrel
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skerpskutter View Post
    How was the bisley rifles made?
    Bisley Rifle? If you mean a rifle that was used on the ranges at Bisley Camp in Englandicon, all the No.4s were converted from military rifles. Sometimes the "conversion" consisted of just fitting a posh sight, such as the one on your rifle. Other conversions had more done to the rifle.

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    With bisley I mean long range shooting...

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    Thanks RGG 7. the rifle was shiped to south africa and then it was fitted with a Parker hale sight.

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    NRA STOCKING UP RULES

    The following is reprinted from the (Britishicon) NRA target shooting rules for 1967 and can be considered to be their final word on adjusting the .303” No.4 rifle for competitive shooting. It is reproduced without alteration, except for some comments thus [ ]

    1. There are three methods of stocking up the No.4 Rifle authorised by the War Department. Certain methods are common to all three methods. These are outlined below.

    2. COMMON BEARINGS
    (a) The fore-end fits tightly at the rear end between the sear lugs and the butt socket of the body [receiver].
    (b) There should be a good bearing on the body surface around the front trigger guard screw hole and along the narrow ledge on each side of the magazine opening, extending for a distance of not less than 1½” to the rear of the front trigger guard screw hole. This bearing should be even throughout its surface and the for-end should be clear on either side of the barrel socket of the body i.e. immediately in rear of the reinforce [Nock’s Form].
    (c) There should be a good bearing of the reinforce of the barrel extending for its full length. The seating should be approximately one-third of the width of the reinforce. This bearing should be in the centre of the reinforce seating of the fore-end.

    1. METHODS
    No.1 The muzzle end of the barrel should bear for the full length of the cap for-end and be in the centre of this raised seating. There should be a clearance of not less than .020” between barrel and either side of the fore-end for the length of the seating. When assembled the lift required to raise the barrel from this seating should be 3-5 lbs. The barrel should be otherwise entirely free from influence of the fore-end and should have a clearance of approximately .010”.

    No.2 Instead of a bearing at the muzzle end the barrel seating may be ‘floated out’ leaving a clearance all round the barrel. The barrel should be free of influence of the fore-end forward of the reinforce and have a clearance of approximately .010”.

    No.3 A bearing should be obtained between the two lightening cuts in the stock fore-end, approximately 5” forward of the body. This bearing should be obtained by building up the stock fore-end at this point by means of a 1½” light metal shim or a wood insert glued in position. From this point forward to the muzzle the barrel should be clear of all furniture, with a clearance of approximately .010”.


    2. Bearing surfaces mentioned above may be restored or built up by inserts of wood fitted and glued in place. Plastic material may also be used for this purpose but must be restricted to the above-mentioned points.
    3. To avoid the unnecessary insertion of wooden blocks one or two small pieces of thin paper may be used for the fine adjustment of any bearings at the reinforce or in rear of it.
    4. The length of the guard screw collar should be such that the trigger guard is tightened against the face of the collar and also the stock.
    5. There is no objection to the use of collars slightly thicker in the wall for the front trigger guard screw, provided always that the external dimensions of the present collars are not exceeded. It is essential that the external dimensions of the collar should remain unaltered as enlargement of the holes for the collars in the woodwork is objectionable and cannot be permitted.
    6. Freeing of the barrel in the stock will be achieved by floating out the woodwork.
    7. Checkering on the underside of the fore-end is not allowed.

    8. TRIGGER MECHANISM
    The trigger mechanism of Rifles made before 4th December 1947, may be altered to comply with design D5/E/5021/SK168 [Mk 1/2 rifles]
    This differs from the old in that the trigger is hung on the body instead of the trigger guard. The bracket to which the trigger is fitted may be integral with the body or brazed on.

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