What would it mean if my stock didn't have arsenal rebuild stamps on it?

[firstflabn]

98% of your questions would be immediately answered by Riesch's book.

[ABPOS]

Don't have that one. I am reading Canfield's right now though. But it takes time......... I apologize if I shouldn't have asked.

[shadycon]

Looks like a very nice stock. As stated production run for Std Pro.Type one;I cut highwood.
Type two; oval cut highwood. type three; same oval cut, low wood. As stated most type two have been cut to low wood configuration. Depending on where modifications and upgrades are done depends on who marked them or if marked at all. Or all external markes on stock have been sanded off . I hope this helps. And I hope you get them preforming as they should.GK

[Bruce McAskill]

Type 1 stocks have an I cut slot for the oiler and high wood stock. Type 2 stocks have what's called an oval oiler slot and has high wood stock. The type 3 is the same as a type 2, but has low wood cut stock. Type 1 and 2 stocks were converted into type 3 stocks by cutting the high wood from beside the slide on the stock. Your stock is one of these.

[ABPOS]

Type 1 stocks have an I cut slot for the oiler and high wood stock. Type 2 stocks have what's called an oval oiler slot and has high wood stock. The type 3 is the same as a type 2, but has low wood cut stock. Type 1 and 2 stocks were converted into type 3 stocks by cutting the high wood from beside the slide on the stock. Your stock is one of these.

I'm lost now. Because it's been said that type II and type III both have oval oiler hole. Mine doesn't "appear" to have been changed to low wood by looking at it. Meaning I don't see any marks that would indicate such. Although if they sanded it well, you might not see it. Maybe that's why you're saying it's an altered type II. Lack of any markings means they might've sanded it? That would make sense now. Because when I look at where the recess is for the "low wood" portion, it looks like it goes fluidly the whole way down back to the receiver. I guess I could put a pic up to show. But the sanding part would make sense. Lack of crossed cannons and what not.

[Bubba-7]

Your stock is either type 2 or 3. I think type 3. But the picture is dark. SP Ordnance stasmp is small and when you learn where to look, you may be able to see part of it. There is a lot to learn with carbines.

[emmagee1917]

Arsenals have had a lot of practice rebuilding guns. Most of the rebuilds will look like brand new prouction weapons UNLESS you know exactly what to look for that they did differenty than the original mfg . did. Not better nor worse , but different . Stampings , finish , upgrades , etc. If your stock was a type 2 and they got ahold of it and cut her down to a type 3 , unless your OEM had a specific detail on thier type 2s that was not on thier type 3s that you knew to go by and that the arsenal did not remove , prob'ly 97-99% of the time you would not be able to tell. In this case , cutting down the rail , you can , rarely but can , come across a stock with a hint of rail left that would tip you off.
Chris

[ABPOS]

Canfield's book says they started low wood at 2,090,000. My receiver is a 2,05x,xxx. So, I almost wonder if it isn't original. Obviously it's a discrepancy of 40,000, so maybe it's not likely. But like you said, maybe when they rebuild them they try to pair parts that were "close" to being right. Maybe the fit is better than. I don't know. I'm still trying to see the marking on the right side, and can't see anything. But the S-HB, is clearly there in the oiler slot. So..... I guess it's all good. Actually I think more to the point of what you said was that if they sanded it down, they did such a good job, I wouldn't notice anything out of place. That is probably true. I guess that could explain why I can't see the other markings. Because I'm pretty sure they didn't sand in the oiler slot.

I'm with Bubba though, there is a TON to learn about these things.

[INLAND44]

Judging by what I can see, you have a typical Type III stock. Eyes/hands - on would be rquired to tell if it is actually a converted Type II, but I wouldn't expect that according to the serial number.

[ChipS]

98% of your questions would be immediately answered by Riesch's book.

ABPOS:

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