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    Comparitive rarity, and originality in my mind...
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    I realize the rarity issue. But I meant the general fear of shooting the thing. The other T-rifles should have about the same charge behind the projectile.

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    Patrick, I think you will find that later anti-tank rifles all had muzzle brakes, shoulder pads, recoil absorber springs etc, making them a lot more bearable to shoot. The T-Gewehr was a brute-force solution, one could call it a monstrosity, being basically a scaled-up Gew.98 without any consideration for the non-scaled up skeleton of the shooter!

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    It was the first of its kind, and it is huge. I have a later Germanicon piece, the PzB39, and had a chance at a Boyes but missed the chance (dammit), and have also owned the Russianicon PTRS semi auto AT rifle. I wouldn't really want to shoot any of them, but of the group, I would want to shoot the Mauser T-Gewehr the least. The others do have muzzle brakes, shoulder pads, some recoil reducing features, etc, while the T-Gewehr is just a MONSTER 98. I saw a video of one being fired, and the fellow doing the shooting moves back, with the rifle, about 3 feet through the dirt..........

    Having said that, very cool rifle!

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    large bore cartridges

    Attachment 39235Attachment 39234The original US 50 cal cartridge also had a rim like the 13mm Mauser, that was soon changed as the Browning 50 cal M1919 m/g was being developed after WW1.

    Photo shows three WW2 cartridges: 55 Boys, 50 cal Browning and 12.7mm Russianicon

    Some collectors/shooters have made 13mm Mauser cartridges to shoot in their rifles

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    After WWI the US Army gave away plies of heavy Germanicon MG's etc to the VFW Posts. I think lots of these in private collections have a VFW connection.

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    Considering that ear protection was not in general use at the time ... I´d definitely shoot it. Don´t think I could live with it without having shot it. If apprehensive, you could always start off with a weaker load and progress from there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by villiers View Post
    could always start off with a weaker load and progress from there.

    One shoulder-saving answer would be to turn up a case or two from solid brass (like the Samereier cases for reduced loads), leaving a powder space more like that of a 45-70 or 50-70, and then in effect load it as if it was a 50-70 with a nitro load. Going a bit further, the large mass of the rifle ought to make it feasible to shoot something equivalent to a 50 caliber 3" Nitro Express without too much personal strain!

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    A sub cal round...that would work extremely well...
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    Now that would be a fun thing to try--machine a round, make a .303 chamber in it, and fire something smaller. That would sure raise some eyebrows at the range if one showed up with that and set up! Maybe even a .22!

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