Looking for Schematics for no.1 mkIII and no. 4 mk1 wood

[Lazysod]

Hey everyone, I'm thinking of seeing if a cnc programmer can work with me to create the dimensions for the wood components for the lee enfield no.1 mk3 and no.4 mk1 . I could really use a copy of the schematics if any of you have them. Thank you to anyone that is able to help. If you are willing to share your knowledge to get this off the ground I'm all ears. Thanks. You are welcome to email me at ryandrea@gmail.com

Ryan

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[Peter Laidler]

The complete manufacturers drawing for this should be at the NFC, Leeds

[breakeyp]

If drawings are not available, in the car business we had a machine that ran a probe over a clay model generating a surface program that a draftsman used to generate the drawing/CNC program. Or there used to be available a stock profile machine that would duplicate from a master part.

[Lazysod]

Thank you Peter. REally appreciate the tip. I've seen blueprints for transport boxes but not for the actual wood components of an enfield. If anyone is interested in helping with this project it would be greatly appreciated. Including the metal components that attach directly to the wood. Thank you!

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I was thinking some sort of 3d scanner as well. I wonder how readily available they would be.

If drawings are not available, in the car business we had a machine that ran a probe over a clay model generating a surface program that a draftsman used to generate the drawing/CNC program. Or there used to be available a stock profile machine that would duplicate from a master part.

[bow]

I'm also interested on this project. Some months ago I made the same question.

[Lazysod]

Yeh. I've been polling other message boards and it looks like $250 would be too high for a set of no.1 mk3 wood. Some are saying they are being made in canada and you can find full sets for 150 but I haven't heard boo as to where or how I can get my hands on them.

Lazysod

[Bruce_in_Oz]

I have SOME drawings for No1 wood. Likewise LE Mk1* furniture. Nothing for the No4 or 5

I have already spoken to a couple of CNC wood shops here in Oz and the numbers are daunting.

Most such establishments are making domestic or office furniture by the container-load. Anyone who walks in and asks for a quote to make sets of four very odd bits of wood from an expensive timber like walnut or, a rare one, like Australian coachwood, is in for a nasty shock. I certainly was.

Butts are fairly straightforward and can be made on rudimentary duplicating machines using a metal or composite master pattern and some other simple tooling.

It is, of course. the front bits that are the problem. The barrel channel of the fore-end has some very tricky inletting that was done using a bunch of specially ground cutters mounted on a long mandrel. The two top handguards start out as one quite large, long piece of timber. The major product of the operation is shavings; the component is the by-product.

Then there are the fittings for the top handguards. The little cap and screws/rivets will take some extra "tooling up", as will the retaining spring and its rivets and washers for the rear handguard. And then there is the threaded brass rod and stock-bolt keeper plate for the final touches in the fore-end.

Has anyone with more money than me bothered to have a chat to Ishapore regarding this matter? I figure that if one were to ship them two containers of suitably cut raw material, a bit less than a full container of finished product would be shipped back.

To get some idea of the processes, pre-CNC, watch the "Wood goes to War" video.

And then there is my floundering barrel project. I am running out of children to sell.

[Bindi2]

EFD had new made furniture so they might be worth a call.

[Lazysod]

Thank you Bruce in oz! This is what I needed to hear. It sounds extremely daunting. I need to seriously reconsider this venture, especially after what you said. Thanks again. Could you send me a few of those drawings? I'd love to see them.

Rl

[Peter Laidler]

To be really honest lazysod, I can't see what the problem is. The world must be knee deep in decent fore-ends. Handguards are advertised on ebay every week! And a half decent fore-end can be made good by any decent Armourer, even one with such low standards as me has refurbished zillions of them to perfect