No.32 Mk3 Scope and Metal Scope Can

[Promo]

Please, could members give me an idea as to an estimated value for this item?

Thank you ....

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[Promo]

Thanks Doug for posting it!

Originally thought this would be a scope for the L42A1 rifle - or is it for the No. 4 T?!?

[Peter Laidler]

To find out exactly what it's worth - or rather it's value (not always the same thing incidentally.....), put it on an auction site. That is the only way.

[Promo]

Peter, please do not feel offended by my answer since it may sound rude, but:

We have this forum section also especially for someone who wants to know the value of something. Considering this, there might be 3 reasons for someone to post here:

1. One has been offered something and wants to know whether the asking price is fair, or not
2. One has something and just wants to know the current market value, without even thinking of selling it. Probably for the insurance of his own collection or something.
3. One wants to sell something.

With this last point you need to seperate again several possibilities:
a) Someone has something that he or she did originally does not plan to sell, however since someone he knows quite well tries to convince him to sell it. To make it fair for both sides, he or she wants to know what the part is worth
b) Someone has something that he or she wants to sell for the Maximum possible. Here we need once again to seperate:
1. The plan is to sell it via an advertisement or at a gun show, therefore he or she needs an estimate
2. The plan is to sell it at an auction house. Therefore he or she needs to know the true value someone would estimate it, and not what the auction house is promising
3. The plan is to sell it at an online auction. Again, there are different possibilities such as selling for a fixed price, asking a minimum bid, entering bid etc., also to choose the right platform.

Still, if I would sell it at an online auction this would just be the price two persons which have become aware of something, the lower one of the maximum bid of the two would be the one determining the price. And after all this is just a moment screening.

Since all I wanted to know what it is worth without needing to put it on eBay. Sorry, but I always feel offended when someone answers the question of a value of something with "put it to auction".

Especially from someone knowledgeable and with experiences as yours, you should be able to say "I'd rate it at or between XXX" and not give the stupid answer of telling me I should put it in an auction, since I have never planned to sell it, secondly that I am in the fortunate position that I do not need to get out the maximum of everything.

[jmoore]

From what I've seen lately, anywhere between US$1800 and roughly 2800. But I'm sure there's units outside that range. Of course, if there's someone that has a matching rifle, it ought to be much more valuable to them. Whether they have the funds at the time is another question!

Amongst my circle of nut jobs, we will buy things in installments or work up convoluted trades sometimes. US$6000 seems to be about the most spent on a scope between us. (Not a No.32, BTW!) The craziest trade involved four of us and had stuff going every which way. But everyone was satisfied in the end, which is all that really matters.

(ETA: the price for No.32 scopes doesn't seem to be much different than for mismatched rifle and scope combos. So...)

ETA2: the auction sites thing has merit in that you might be able to check the "sold for" prices on completed auctions of similar units. ETA2a: Not being much of an auctioneer myself, I don't know which sites offer such a feature, but a friend used to regularly reference Gunbroker.com for completed auctions before making an offer on incoming guns and such for his store.

[Peter Laidler]

Don't ever think that you will offend me or sound rude Promo. I am just too thick skinned for all of that nonsense. My past life meant that I wouldn't have survived more than 20 minutes if I took offence at anything.

If you really wanted the price of anything then I maintain that it is the auction price. Anything else is the economics of the madhouse! I always use the ROVER cars test. Make crap then no one wants and try to sell it or market it as a BMW and you're doomed to bankruptcy. And vice verca....... Just ask your wife about economics when she goes shopping. The price is ALWAYS, always fixed by the price people will pay. Nothing more and nothing less

As for telescopes and me in particular, suggesting my auction answer was stupid (last paragraph). Well, just think again....... I have scrapped or written off hundreds, repaired thousands but never bought or purchased ONE, ever in my life. But I have seen MANY on auction sites and as much as I wouln't even pay £50 for one (that's my value....). Is that the answer you wanted from me? I KNOW what they actually fetch at auction. THAT is economics Promo.

Maybe the true answer is that for YOUR part, you could have prefixed the question or added a post question rider mentioning the reason a) why you need a general ball-park figure and b) why you don't trust the auction price. But if you ask a question inviting me to answer, you get an answer - whether you like it or not. As many forumers who know and understand me know. No offence meant of course and none taken, but that is the nature of the beast

As a little aside, in the Army, as engineers, you'd often be asked akward, delicate or difficult questions by higher and much senior ranks. I learned from an old and long serving Warrant Officer. I used to sit and ponder for a while, scratch my chin and answer '..........Mmmmm, difficult Sir..... do you want the political answer, a load of bollocks............. or the truth............? And GUESS what they always wanted? Yep......, got it in one!

[Promo]

Peter,

If you would have read the OP better, you would have noticed that it was Doug who had posted it for me since my Computer broke down and I couldn't upload pictures.

For whatever reason, can someone tell me why the scope doesn't have a year date on it? Have never seen that before. And also curious whether this is the No. 4 T scope, or the scope for the L42A1?

[Peter Laidler]

A lot of them don't have year's marked on them so it's not unusual. That is a bog standard Mk3 telescope from a No4T rifle. The L1A1 telescope for the L42 sniper is simply one of these converted so that the range scale reads in Metres and calibrated for 7.62mm NATO ball. Then it's engraved with the new nomenclature