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Gentlemen: humped, thumped or bumped...what is this???
I have the most interesting CLLE that I would like some opinions on and be brutal if you must.
1- a C.L.L.E. dated /19 (I assume 1919)
2- built on a 1918 SMLE No.1 Mk. III* action
3- Canadian marked on the receiver ring
4- Three serial numbers on the barrel but matching to the receiver and bolt.
What the H&LL is this thing??? No Indian marks on it that I can find, yet it is of Indian quality.
ANY opinions ??? Anyone???
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Last edited by Warren; 02-05-2013 at 09:21 AM.
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02-04-2013 09:51 PM
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May we see the action. To go back to CLLE is all most Kyber Pass material but want to see the action first both sides.
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Looks like a Khyber CLLE conversion of a possibly real No1. The No1 markings look real enough.
Possibly done to satisfy the market for Long Lees over SMLEs in Afghanistan?
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A few more pictures. Was unable to include them in the original posting.
Interesting logo on the knox form.
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Warren,
I have one like that, came out of New Zealand but it was built on a 1896 MLE action. Was a CLLE I, not a more common CLLE I*. The lettering on the left hand side looked almost identical to yours.
Story with the gun was it was supposed to have been for NZ Navy, converted to a range rifle later.
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I've seen that logo before somewhere. Commercial gunsmith, perhaps someone can tell us who. Perhaps someone in the period between the wars wanted a Long rifle - most people preferred them in the target-shooting world before the war.
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James: I've seen the logo also but the mind is the second thing to go. The old girl is a real beater and it has been around here for years but just cannot remember where or from whom it came. It has been re-numbered to matching and the markings are not "eastern", so I am at a bit of a loss.
The B T on the left side of the barrel is unknown as well as the logo. Most other marks are standard proof and inspection marks.
Frederick: Interesting on the NZ story. I'll pull it down tonight and see if anything else in the way of markings but it is one beat up old CLLE
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The logo is for L.R. Tippins and Son of Mistley, Manningtree which I think is in Essex. From what i read he was a schoolteacher and fine shot who 'tuned' rifles for target shooting. His son was killed in WW1.
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Ah, yes, that's where we saw it. Here's a thread on the subject Sometimes you get Lucky
Tippins was a string critic of the Short rifle before the war, and lost no opportunities to decry it.
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Ah ha......and I have a couple of Tippins sights around here.
Thanks for the info. Too bad the rifle is such a beater but it might make a nice winter project.
Too bad the cypher on the butt socket is so chewed up.
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