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    Mauser bolt types

    I've got a bunch of Mausers, all action lengths, ring diameters, etc. Not all have matching numbers, of course, so there is always a question of the bolt that is in the gun being the correct type for that specific weapon family. No problem in figuring this out when they have identifying marks, but most don't. So the question for the board is: are there any design constants particular to families? That is, are bent, flattened and checkered specific to 98az and Polish types? Were there other users of this bolt type? Are all Germanicon bolt knobs round, with a sharp transition between the arm and the knob? What families/factories/countries used bolts with a radiussed transition between arm and bolt? did any German guns use such a handle/knob design?
    I can find no reference to these features in any of my books; Ball, Olsen, etc.
    Some tyoes are easy, such as the hollow G33/40, and short Mexican types, but most are ill-defined by the references.
    I'm just beginning to inventory and document my collection, so my heirs will have some idea of what is there (hopefully not for a long time, though), and notes that include "correctness" of each piece would be a big help.
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    If it's original, the numbers will match.

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    Post a photo or two. We can try our best.

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    Not quite sure what you're wanting specifically but, the FN M1924 series, including Yugoslav Manufacture are intermediate length bolts whereas their model 1930 is among the standard length bolts.
    There are only a few other rifles that use the intermediate length bolts. There's a Turk but, I don't know which model or what the others are.

    The Yugoslav M48 series use a shallow bend bolt arm with a smooth flat on the bottom of a solid ball. I am by no means sure but, I believe that is pretty specific to them. The shallow bend lets them avoid relieving the stock as is done on the German K98kicon.

    That help?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim View Post
    Not quite sure what you're wanting specifically but, the FN M1924 series, including Yugoslav Manufacture are intermediate length bolts whereas their model 1930 is among the standard length bolts.
    There are only a few other rifles that use the intermediate length bolts. There's a Turk but, I don't know which model or what the others are.

    The Yugoslav M48 series use a shallow bend bolt arm with a smooth flat on the bottom of a solid ball. I am by no means sure but, I believe that is pretty specific to them. The shallow bend lets them avoid relieving the stock as is done on the German K98kicon.

    That help?
    Actually, yes. That does define one characteristic of one family of bolts that could help differentiate between those and some other country's. I thought I was pretty clear, but I guess not. Nothing ever reads the same as it is written! Anyway, I do know about short/ long/ intermediate length bolts. I do know about small ring and large ring. I do know what length bolt fits which receivers (or if I don't, I've got the book that does). I do know that if the numbers match it is an original bolt ( actually, not really always the case).
    What I don't know is any way to tell if a non-matching bolt in a for instance K98 was a K98 bolt originally or came out of some other rifle type. Polish bolts fit German rifles and vice versa, but unless matching, how would one know that the bolt is the correct type or not? There must be some generic characteristics common to a given country's factories that would aid in identifying country of origin, at least.
    Maybe it's a little anal, but even though a (non-matching) bolt fits and functions in a given rifle, and I realize that it isn't original to that specific gun, i'd like to know that the bolt at least came out of the same factory!

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