No 2 mk 4 trainer questions

[Father Ted]

I've been looking at trainers online (as I never seem to come across them in person) and I've been looking to find one that was built on early mk 1, mk3 with original features still in tact. Being new to trainers what are some key things to look for other than you might look for on standard smle? I found one from an online seller that was built on a 1905 (can't make out manufacturer on wrist) converted in 1949. It has a 22 barrel not an insert and still has the cutoff and volley sights in place. I asked for a photo of the crown and you can't really make out any pronounced rifling as you would on a decent 303. Is this normal or should it be similar to looking for a 303. Did these trainer barrels get shot out?
Any tips for a trainer newby would be greatly appreciated.
Cheers

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[Roy]

The little .22 round is very gentle on the barrel, not being jacketed. I have a 1913 converted in 1920 it still shoots fine and bowls over rabbits as long as I can make them out through the sights. If it is a 1905 is it built on a Sht LE Mk1 reciever or is it on a Long Tom, it would be really nice if it has original wood to the reciever if you are really lucky then the magazine will have .22 stamped into the left side and the mag follower removed. On this site there is an article about .22 trainers which is quite good. They are great fun to shoot and are quite accurate as the barrels are very heavy for a .22. If you get I hope you put some pics up.

[Badger]

Lance posted a nice series on the .22 Enfields ...

.22 Enfield's (Collection Photo Essay)

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Regards,
Doug

[Father Ted]

Thanks, I have drooled over the 22 collection sticky many times in the past. As far as the receiver on the 1905, in the pics I can barely make out the date but it looks like 1905 yet it possesses charger bridge. Wouldn't a 1905 be without ?
Cheers

[Father Ted]

Also, the top of receiver is marked m102 1949. 1949 would be conversion date correct? What about m102? Thanks for any input.
Cheers

[Steve H. in N.Y.]

The mark is probably M192 which was the code for Parker-Hale. Are there markings on the left side of the butt socket? It could be a Mk.I converted to Mk.II with a charger bridge before ending up as a .22.

[Father Ted]

I don't have any pics of left side socket. Typically a 22 stamp found there, right? If it is a 1905 then the forend and rear handguard don't seem to be original. The sight protector was built into handguard at that time? The date is nearly obliterated , all I can make out is 190?. Either way it appears to be a nice rifle yet a little on the high price side. I hear stories of people finding these at the price of a normal smle but not on the Internet.

[bigduke6]

Well worth reading up on them Lance,s article is a good read which started me off, also plenty of info in Ian Skenertons Enfield bible, I bought another a few months back but is a Mk111 and then later stamped IV (no parker hiscock magazine), lots of history behind it (if only they could talk) started life as a MLM then went through several conversions untill the last one, and shoots like its just come out the box.