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    Swiss percussion stutzer?

    Picked this very interesting muzzle loader up last week..it appears to be a double set trigger Swissicon stutzen. The seller claims it is a flint to percussion conversion, .56 caliber. The only markings on it are on the lock plate 'fabrik', everything before it seems deliberately ground off. On the buttplate, middle, and front barrel band is a 'T' in shield marking. Wrist has what appears to be damage from a ball, with what appears to be a pretty old repair with brass strips. Barrel has bayonet lug that seems to have been ground down a bit. What on earth do I have here?

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    And of course, pics are not showing up....
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    Ok..once again having difficulty getting pics up. I really want to get some up as I really want to know what this is. Or, more precisely, model and year of manufacture.
    All screws match, numbered 4, inside of lock as well. As far as I can tell, this is a military arm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anzac15 View Post
    Picked this very interesting muzzle loader up last week..it appears to be a double set trigger Swissicon stutzen.

    Looking forward to pics. BTW, very similar rifles were also made in Germanyicon, so clear photos of any markings would be very helpful.

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    Well, trying to upload some pics from my IPhone, but I am having no luck doing it. Have absolutely no idea how to do it. If anyone has some suggestions, it would be most appreciated.....

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    Anzac,
    Send me the photos And will upload for you. Always willing to help a fellow collector. PM me.

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    Alright..thanks!

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    Gents,
    I am posting these photos for Anzac. Let him know what you think!


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    Lock area:




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    More photos folks!




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    Last but not least, a nice quartering shot of this gun!


    Anzac,
    Let me know if you need anything else posted!

    Do you see any markings/ cartouches on the stock?

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    Thanks for posting these..the only cartouche/marking on the wood is what appears to be a gothic 'g' on the left side..

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