How to sling the No4 Mk1(T)

[Boom-Boom]

Thank you Patrick.

I am also curious to know how the common type No4 issued with web slings were used for medium/long range shooting with no target swivel installed???

Not much can be done with the action cover attaching loop at magazine front???

Tks,

BB

Yes. Shooting competitions with both types, my experience is that the British sling is quicker to use, but less stable in position. I have gradually attached 1907 slings to all competition rifles where it is permitted (it would look odd on an M1871 Mauser!)

[Rumpelhardt]

Thank you Patrick.

I am also curious to know how the common type No4 issued with web slings were used for medium/long range shooting with no target swivel installed???

Not much can be done with the action cover attaching loop at magazine front???

Tks,

BB

You can usualy find the target swivals on eBay if you want one. Numrich Gun Parts did have some but I think they're sold out.

[Maple_Leaf_Eh]

Boom Boom (long time no see!)

The two-point British sling is indeed easy to get into, but less solid. The sling will slide down the tricep and get out of position unless there is a button or something to rub against. There were a few old school DCRA shooters using two-point slings when I was new in the game, but overwhelmingly everyone preferred single point slings.

The issue web sling is really a carrying strap, not a marksmanship aid. However, if the shooter can wind his support arm through the front end, the rear portion will come across his chest. If the sling is short enough, it will give support. Too long and nothing works. But too short and the rifle is uncomfortable to carry over the shoulder.

Hunting magazine editors have a long list of topics to assign to their writers, but few articles actually seem to have new information. So in between the debates over magnum or belted or short fat cartridges, scope zeroing, rifle maintenance, jerky making recipes and photospreads of successful hunts (how come my deer never look so magnificent as theirs?), someone writes a splashy article discovering how the Acme Brand sling will improve readers' shooting accuracy. Revelations! And merchandising opportunities abound! Then as the cycle moves, the next big thing will be Anchor Incorporated shooting sticks to rest the rifle on. New revelations! And more merchandising opportunities on the horizon!

[Boom-Boom]

Hey, nice to hear from you too.....

Indeed, this is a topic not discused often since these days lots of shooters/hunters have no clue of what is a shooting sling is except for a mean of carrying your rifle.

Some body replied that I can find and buy target swivel to put on a No4 but my question was how to use the issue sling and rifle w/o the target swivel.

regards,


BB


BB

Boom Boom (long time no see!)

The two-point British sling is indeed easy to get into, but less solid. The sling will slide down the tricep and get out of position unless there is a button or something to rub against. There were a few old school DCRA shooters using two-point slings when I was new in the game, but overwhelmingly everyone preferred single point slings.

The issue web sling is really a carrying strap, not a marksmanship aid. However, if the shooter can wind his support arm through the front end, the rear portion will come across his chest. If the sling is short enough, it will give support. Too long and nothing works. But too short and the rifle is uncomfortable to carry over the shoulder.

Hunting magazine editors have a long list of topics to assign to their writers, but few articles actually seem to have new information. So in between the debates over magnum or belted or short fat cartridges, scope zeroing, rifle maintenance, jerky making recipes and photospreads of successful hunts (how come my deer never look so magnificent as theirs?), someone writes a splashy article discovering how the Acme Brand sling will improve readers' shooting accuracy. Revelations! And merchandising opportunities abound! Then as the cycle moves, the next big thing will be Anchor Incorporated shooting sticks to rest the rifle on. New revelations! And more merchandising opportunities on the horizon!

[Peter Laidler]

The simple answer to your last question boom boom is that you can't use the issue sling on an issue rifle without the target swivel because it doesn't have one! The only way that the sling can be used on the standard rifle is by using the standard and well tried method.

[Parashooter]

. . . my question was how to use the issue sling and rifle w/o the target swivel.

This works if you don't squirm too much -



It's also possible, though inelegant, to attach a common commercial QD swivel to the staple.

Attachment 41780

One can sometimes use the issue web sling single-point style. Form a loop at the unattached lower end, put your arm through after the obligatory half-twist, tighten it up, and adjust length at the upper end. Works best if the sling is fairly new and stiff - too floppy and the hooks won't hold well around upper arm.

[Mk VII]

There is a hook which you buy that does the job



There was also a triangle bent up from heavy gauge wire with a gap so that you could attach it to the loop - can't find mine at the moment.

[muffett.2008]

There are three main styles, standard, doublepoint target, and singlepoint. There are variations of each style, however the basics are the same.Attachment 41790

Attachment 41788Attachment 41789Attachment 41787 The other variation of single point using a bren sling wound the sling around the forewood and took the tension off the front swivel, common practice with the L1A1 in competition.

[Boom-Boom]

Many thanks to all of you for lots of very useful and diverse information.

Looking forward to start shooting soon the old boomers with return of warmer conditions.

Regards,

BB