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    Talking WWI Periscopic Prism Co. sniper scope on GB website

    There's a nice looking WWI sniper scope on GunBroker - a Periscopic Prism Co. scope with the correct scope carrying case (properly numbered to the scope). I'd bid on the darn thing - if I had a WWI No.3 to put it on. Could be a good buy for someone on our board here.

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    If only the seller would ship internationally, I'd take a crack at it! Surely there aren't restrictions on selling vintage scopes like this one to foreign destinations????

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    Hell. If this was sold to someone like myself, I would have no problem shipping this "antique" scope to a Canadianicon member - for "evaluation" (and, of course, not to be returned.

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    It looks very nice but would it need a special ramp to fit on? I can't see any dove tails on my 1915 SMLE. Incidentally, I have always found that if you contact the seller on Gunmart they will invariably post to the UKicon unless it's obviously a 'weapon of war'.

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    I contacted the vendor who told me that he has no problem posting this to the UKicon though the Insurance and postage would be more, and that his reserve for the scope is $950.

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    Oooohh..... I've got about six "B 6xxx" Enfield actions that are quite close to that number - one is only eleven numbers off. Anyone got a punch set i can borrow....


    p.s. to anyone who has successfully mounted one of these onto an action using repro mounts - how did you achieve the alignment?

    I'm guessing that you'd have to boresight the rifle onto something like a graduated .303" zero target, then align the scope to - say - 600 yards on the same target but offset 2 1/2 left to achieve lateral parallel, then solder the mounts to the action as a precursor to drilling and tapping the screw holes?
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    If it's in the USAicon it requires an export license for legal shipment to another country under ITAR.

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    IIRC Pamphlet 195 of 1917 states that aim off should be 1.5" at all ranges, although I can only surmise that this is an 'average' figure as the precise amount of aim off would vary from scope to scope & mounting system to mounting system. If I were doing it I would probably do as Thunderbox says, ensuring both the point of aim & the appropriate amount of aim off were readily visible on the target used, solder the mount in place (bearing in mind the receiver needs some degree of machining before this anyway), check with scope fitted & centralised, & keep taking tiny amounts of meat off the appropriate face of either the body of the rifle or the mount base, until I got there. Then drill & tap. The one I did a few weeks ago was a cheat as the base was an original & my machinist had prepped a barrelled action for me years ago, ready for fitting. It just took me 12 years to get round to doing it. When I do shoot it we'll see how good he was.....

    Incidentally, the dovetail tensioning spring & spacer/shim are missing from the scope in the auction. Not a big issue as they are easily made, but they are missing all the same.

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    There are another couple of items of interest on eBay. Another sniper scope 130893860247 and a set of scope mounts 310650996859.


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    I suspect these were set up in the same was as the No4(T): the mating surfaces were machined after the base was attached to the body. It would make no sense to do anything else. It is a very simple dovetail slot to machine and the end of the base unscrews allowing a clear run for the cutter all the way through. All that is needed is a jig to hold the barreled action in correct alignment.
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