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    13-126 Garand Picture of the Day- Japan



    MILITARY POLICEMEN STAND GUARD as Japaneseicon soldiers carry rifles, light machine guns, and side arms from trucks into a building used as a collecting point (top
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    Shortly before taking them for a swim in Tokyo bay?

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    Attachment 43048
    Step number two.

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    If you get a chance, read Little Ship Big War: The Saga of DE343 by Edward Stafford. It tells the story of a destroyer escort from the builders yards to the biggest campaigns in the Pacific (including the ping line at Okinawa, where Navy losses rivaled Marine losses due to the Kamikazes and the issue actually came into doubt dues to those Navy losses) to Tokyo bay after the surrender and eventually to her mothballing and scrapping. His account covers the eventual disposition of some of those very rifles. As a representative of DE343, the William Warner Abercrombie, and two other ships, during the occupation, he managed to wangle a rifle for every man on each ship, bayonets for some, and officer's swords for a few. Quite a tidy job, that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HOOKED ON HISTORY View Post
    Attachment 43048
    Step number two.
    A lot of those rifles look very slab sided, without much contour. I wonder if these were some
    of the late production last ditch rifles?


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    I don't see that many without forward top hand guards though. I think the photo lends to the perception of being featureless.
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    Japaneseicon ammunition being dumped into the sea on September 21, 1945. During the U.S. occupation, almost all of the Japanese war industry and existing armament was dismantled. (U.S. Army)
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    So, while a rather myopic U.S. government 'cheaped out' and dumped everything Japaneseicon into the ocean the ever devious and strategic-thinking Russians busily spent the time, effort and money to ship all they captured - weapons, ammunition, war materials, machinery and even people, back to the motherland to be used for their future 'wars of liberation'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul S. View Post
    So, while a rather myopic U.S. government 'cheaped out' and dumped everything Japaneseicon into the ocean the ever devious and strategic-thinking Russians busily spent the time, effort and money to ship all they captured - weapons, ammunition, war materials, machinery and even people, back to the motherland to be used for their future 'wars of liberation'
    Very interesting point. Probably balanced out by BAR's point about expiditing inaccessability to a possiable inserection by fanatical Japanese resistance? Shame either way Arisakas are very interesting rifles.
    Interesting story on the subject here.
    http://www.history.army.mil/books/ww...%20Sup/ch5.htm
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