WWII In the Pacific. Why I collect- Family History.

[gtxc01]

I know that the reasons for collecting are as varied as can be. For me personally, it is about feeling a physical connection to the members of my family who have gone before. For those who are interested in grunts-eye view history, the war in the Pacific, and US and Japanese equipment, I offer the following:

My Grandfather, Gilbert Roberts graduated from High School in Michigan in 1943. Upon graduation, he entered the Army Specialized Training Program (ASTP). In the Spring/Summer of 1944, the Army determined that it needed infantryman more than specialized personnel, and accordingly large numbers (all?) of ASTP personnel were sent to flesh out divisions heading overseas. My grandfather was assigned to Company E, 383rd Infantry Regiment, 96th Infantry Division. He served as a rifleman with this company during the invasion of Leyte in the Philippines, and later transferred to the 796th Light Ordnance Maintenance Company (also 96th Division) prior to the invasion of Okinawa.

The attached photo and letter contains interesting (to me, at least) information regarding his service, and a few items that are unconnected but interesting nonetheless. In the letter he mentions the Company is badly mauled during an attack on San Vicente hill (northern tip of the larger Catmon Hill) 25 Oct, 1944. During this attack, the platoon commander, Lieutenant Richard H. Fitzgerald, was KIA. The musette bag in the photograph was his. Subsequently, my grandfather carried the musette bag for the rest of the campaign. Also in the letter, he mentions that three canteens were destroyed by a short round from what he assumes was a 75mm howitzer (early morning 24 Oct 1944). Two of the destroyed canteens were his. He spent most of the following day searching for the Quartermaster so that he could draw new canteens. After that he dug a shelf in his slit trench for his canteens. Unfortunately, in the early morning of 26 October, a Japanese infiltrator managed to land a grenade in his fighting hole, destroying the canteens. That morning, rather than seek out the Quartermaster again, my grandfather elected to take two Japanese canteens (in the picture), and carried them for the rest of the campaign. The canteen with the hole in the cover is actually a conglomerate of two canteens. The cover is from a canteen that had a bullet/frag hole in it that rendered it useless. The good canteen was in a cover that had the strap cut/damaged, so he managed a useable canteen my swapping covers.

Following this night infiltration/attack, in the confusion, my grandfather was thought to be the soldier killed in his slit trench by the grenade. I have seen (but do not have in my possession) the Western Union telegram dated 26 Oct 1944 that reports him as Killed in Action. The attached letter, dated 7 December 1944 was originally hand-written and was sent to family friends. They immediately sent it to my great-grandparents. It was the first indication they had that my grandfather was still alive. My great-grandmother typed the letter up, and submitted it to the local (Mt. Pleasant, MI) newspaper which published it, thus the typed copy that is attached.

The picture contains, from top to bottom, left to right:
1) Company photo of E Company, 383rd Inf Regiment, 96th Division, Camp Callan, CA 20 May 1944.
2) "Corrected" (all correct parts, restoration) 11-43 Springfield Armory Garand, ser no 21742xx, 11/43 barrel, SA GAW stock, etc. First five (and only so far) rounds out of it hit a 24"x24" plate at 600 yards from the prone w/sling. Grouping around 2MOA vertical, 1.5 MOA lateral. M1905 (type 2) Bayonet mfg by Union Fork and Hoe, 1942.
3)M1923 cartridge belt, mfg by ?????flich Co 1942, not carried by grandfather.
4) Sand from Iwo Jima, given to me by a Marine. Not related, but interesting I think.
5) Musette bag carried by Lt Fitzgerald, then my grandfather on Leyte. Mfg Langdon Tent & Awning Co, 1942.
6) Silver filled Combat Infantry Badge
7) 96th Infantry Division Patches worn by grandfather.
8) 48 star flag flown by my great-grandparents on national holidays and everyday my grandfather was in the Army. It is resting on top of my grandfather's copy of the 96th Infantry Division history, The Deadeyes: The Story of the 96th Infantry Division
9)Japanese helmet brought back by my grandfather. Note bullet strike at approximately 1-2 o'clock above star.
10) Type 99 Arisaka. 3 straight-blade (like flat-head screwdriver) strikes into Chrysanthemum. Dust cover and monopod missing, anti-aircraft leafs present on rear sight ladder. This rifle was a bring back from a Navy Gunner's Mate who was sent ashore to help with the collection/organization of captured war materials on multiple islands in the Pacific. It is unknown which island this rifle was picked up on.
11) Canteens picked up and carried by my grandfather on Leyte.
12) Japanese Naval Infantry hat/cap/cover. I believe this was also picked recovered on Leyte.
13) Perhaps the most controversial, and without a doubt my most prized, possession. This belt of a thousand stitches was recovered by my grandfather from the first soldier he killed. He related that the Japanese believe the belt would protect the wearer from harm. My grandmother remarked that it didn't work. I swear, the temperature instantly dropped 5 degrees in the room, my grandfather got a confused look on his face, and said, perfectly seriously, "Oh, but it did. He never felt anything." He shipped this home after Leyte and when he got home after the War he found that his mother had cut open the internal pocket that held Japanese writings on pieces of bamboo. He said that he almost killed his mother when he found out that she had done that. I believe that, at least eventually, my grandfather kept this belt out of respect/recognition/remembrance of the man that he had killed. It may be hard to believe given the general attitude toward the Japanese, but I know that by the time he gave it to me, it certainly wasn't a "trophy". My grandfather, in conversation with my grandmother once remarked "They didn't take prisoners, so neither did we". So, while I don't think he considered the belt something to be proud of, he certainly didn't consider the Japanese (at the time) to be anything but the enemy.

Good luck to all of you as you seek to complete your collections, whatever the reason. I hope that you have found my ramblings of interest.

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Good luck to all of you as you seek to complete your collections, whatever the reason. I hope that you have found my ramblings of interest.

My intrest was inpired for much the same reasons along with a few regrets not having known enough to preserve the relics and memories when those who served in my family were still with me.
So this Memorial Day I will remember those who have gone before along with my father, uncle and grandfathers.

[gtxc01]

My intrest was inpired for much the same reasons along with a few regrets not having known enough to preserve the relics and memories when those who served in my family were still with me.
So this Memorial Day I will remember those who have gone before along with my father, uncle and grandfathers.

I know how you feel. I wanted to know everything, and wish I knew more. When I was very young, I would ask questions, but as I grew older, I refrained from asking, not out of lack of interest, but out of a desire to avoid bringing back memories that were perhaps left buried. What I do know I learned through my grandfather's reminisces that were usually brought about by me mentioning something related to the military, or the war in the pacific. I know almost nothing about my other grandfather's service, other than he was an 81mm mortar man with the 94th Infantry Division in Europe.

I think that to be remembered is the most fitting tribute for all of those who gave part or all of themselves. When looking at that company photograph, I think of the fact that 28 were KIA on Leyte, and another (including replacements) 58 were KIA on Okinawa. I was deployed to Okinawa last year as part of a Marine Expeditionary Unit, and had the fortune to walk a hill, known as Kakazu Ridge, where this very company attacked on 10 April 1945. The photos attached are a fighting cave on the eastern portion of the ridge and a pillbox near the peak of the ridge.

[SRiverrat11]

Thank You gtxc01 for sharing some of your family history on such a solemn weekend as this. Everyday of your service to your country honors your grandfathers memory, and your family should be proud that they have such an able and caring custodian of their history. Semper Fidelis. Scott

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It is up to us to preserve the memories. Lest we forget.

[Bill Hollinger]

GTX, great post! Thank you

[gtxc01]

It is up to us to preserve the memories. Lest we forget.

That's a nice display you have set up. Someday I hope to be able to do something similar. My great concern at the moment is limiting any damage to items I have. My desired end state is to have a case built using UV blocking conservation glass, but with moves every few years, I don't hold much hope that it would survive unscathed.

Mr. Hollinger,

I am glad that you found the post of interest. The oral history of warfare has always and will always hold me completely transfixed.

[SRiverrat11]

In the immortal words of Simon and Garfunkel, "Preserve your memories, there all thats left you". Afghan maps and Korean flag are the memories of my son, who doesnt know he needs to preserve them yet. Thats me on the jeep in 1980. Jeez I had alot of hair.

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I did this for my cousin whos dad (my uncle) served in WWII as an Aviation Tech for PBYs.
Being the only male in my generation of the family it seems my resposibility to preserve our history of service for generations to come.
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If I may add my personal history story.
I grew up knowing I was named after my father’s brother, who was killed in France during WWII. As a youngster whenever I tried talking about him, I got the feeling that it was a topic better left alone. I did some internet searching and found out about the overseas military cemeteries. I was able to get pictures of my uncle’s grave site, and some copies of his military records etc.
In May 2010, I did a “GOOGLE” search for his name and was astonished to get this hit. Followed by some other interesting information.
Anyone know PFC(?) Fredrick North? in 36th Infantry Division Forum
PFC Marshall E Thomas memories of WWII in 36th Infantry Division Forum
I was unable to personally talk to this man, but reading through the stories his son published on the forum has given me a glimpse of what my uncle must have been like. I have some things of my uncles that my mother has found since my fathers death. One of the remaining “T-Patches” from my (namesake) uncle. Just one of the many useful things to do with these.
My personal memorial to him:
PFC Frederick J. North
36th I.D. 141st Co. I
KIA 1/2/45