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    Kal .22 Lang fur Bochsen rifle

    I recently was given a sporterized .22 LFB which is very pitted from many years of neglect and would like to discuss it with anyone who is knowledgeable about these rifles. I did a search and found a three year old thread on the rifle but the forum rules was not too anxious for me to re-open an old thread.

    I tried to fire it and out of five attempts, only two actually fired. The rifle has been sitting in a closet for many years in humid south Texas.

    I have a few pictures I can post if anyone is interested.
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    An old Flobert type rifle, or one of those with the breech way up near the muzzle?

    Relining might be a good option if it's otherwise servicable.

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    Basic German terms to avoid confusion

    OK guys, enough joke German!

    It's .22 lang für Büchsen (long for rifles) i.e. the same as .22 LR, and is NOT a Flobert, which is a smooth-bore gun.

    A couple of basic terms which are sometimes inappropriately used on forums in English:

    Flinte(n) = shotgun(s) Not a flintlock, which is a "Steinschloss" = stone-lock!
    Büchse(n) = rifle(s) The usual term for civilian rifles. Never used for military rifles.
    Gewehr = (usually) A military rifle, applied to what might be termed "full-length" rifles, like the Gew.98, as opposed to
    Karabiner = shorter rifles, such as the famous Kar98kicon. The term is much more widely used than the English "carbine", being also applied to SMLEs, No. 4s, Springfield 03s, in fact just about any rifle that is shorter than the archetypical Gew.98.

    Finally:
    Seitengewehr is NOT a "side rifle". It is a bayonet!


    ---------- Post added at 08:08 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:03 PM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by jmoore View Post
    An old Flobert type rifle, or one of those with the breech way up near the muzzle?

    JM, I suspect you are thinking of the old gallery rifles that looked like a percussion rifle at the back, but had a hammer that actuated a push-rod that acted on either a percussion cap (the oldest type) or Flobert-type ammo in a breech section way down the barrel, often only a few inches from the muzzle. None of these would have been made for .22LR (or at least I have never seen one - which, of course, is poor proof!) as that would negate the whole gallery rifle concept.

    ---------- Post added at 08:10 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:08 PM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by drboompa View Post
    I have a few pictures I can post if anyone is interested.

    Do that! In the meantime clean it and treat it as any other .22LR.
    Last edited by Patrick Chadwick; 06-17-2013 at 02:25 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drboompa View Post
    I tried to fire it and out of five attempts, only two actually fired.
    Dismantle and clean. Unreliable ignition can be due to any one or a combination of:
    Dirty chamber causing "mushy" cartridge seating and hence loss of striker impact. (rather theoretical, but a good clean won't hurt!)
    Worn striker.
    Striker spring weak.
    Striker and spring braked by fossilized grease inside the bolt body.
    Ancient ammo.

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